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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What would you actually do if you saw a transperson in the wrong toilet/changing room for their sex?

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FattyMcFattyArse · 24/08/2025 18:47

I've been pondering this ever since the FWS decision and since I saw an obviously male transperson using the ladies at a service station. I initially froze and wanted to say something, but all my Britishness and female social conditioning made me just mutter under my breath and walk away in disgust.

What would you do?

What have you done?

What is the right thing to do?

They don't belong there, according to the law.

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BettyBooper · 25/08/2025 10:28

Every single man doing this knows he's a man.

Every single one knows he shouldn't be going in the women's toilet.

So why do they continue to do it?

Clue: it's not because they just want to pee.

JurassicPark4Eva · 25/08/2025 10:29

I have encountered a trans identifying man in the ladies before at work, so I left and waited outside. Too small and intimate a space for me to be happy to share with him given you could see his penis through his ill-fitting dress - this was not a person who had any intention of trying to assimilate as their female persona. He was a visitor to my employer.

Unfortunately my employer is captured and my line management is full of men with he/him in their email signatures and Teams profile names, so I don't feel safe complaining about such things at work. I've raised this previously in a survey and nothing changed.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:30

BettyBooper · 25/08/2025 10:28

Every single man doing this knows he's a man.

Every single one knows he shouldn't be going in the women's toilet.

So why do they continue to do it?

Clue: it's not because they just want to pee.

yup. anyone who thinks these chaps 'just want to pee' doesn't understand much about men

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:30

ThatBlackCat · 25/08/2025 10:28

You are so naive and have not read other womens experiences, obviously, so have no idea how women (and girls) have been accosted by these males at the sink.

You know nothing about me or my experiences. I won’t be shamed, browbeaten and chastised for not simply agreeing with you on this.

Petitchat · 25/08/2025 10:31

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:23

and further, it's puzzling that women seem to think it's legit to criticise and take the piss out of other women for wanting single sex spaces.

just because you don't want SSS it doesn't mean other women don't. why can't people show a little more empathy?

I agree, it is puzzling.

I just don't get it when women put men before the genuine concerns, fears and safety of women and girls.

Crazy......

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:31

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:30

You know nothing about me or my experiences. I won’t be shamed, browbeaten and chastised for not simply agreeing with you on this.

it's fine for you to disagree. it's fine for you to be happy with men invading the ladies loos

but your 'yes' doesn't over ride other women's 'no'

ThatBlackCat · 25/08/2025 10:31

Velmy · 25/08/2025 09:46

Carry on about my business knowing that they almost certainly want to be left alone to carry on about theirs.

These males have no 'business' being in a female intimate single sex space, @Velmy .

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:32

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:31

it's fine for you to disagree. it's fine for you to be happy with men invading the ladies loos

but your 'yes' doesn't over ride other women's 'no'

I haven’t said it does, in the same vein that your no doesn’t override my yes.

BettyBooper · 25/08/2025 10:33

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:32

I haven’t said it does, in the same vein that your no doesn’t override my yes.

Yes it does. That's how consent works.

ThatBlackCat · 25/08/2025 10:33

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 09:49

I’ve had no problems with the trans women I’ve shared facilities with but seen women/girls get battered by other women.

Just because you've seen other women fight in the ladies does not mean MALES should be in these facilities. You don't seem to possess critical thinking.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:35

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:32

I haven’t said it does, in the same vein that your no doesn’t override my yes.

your no doesn’t override my yes

well yes it does actually

no always over rides yes. As a pp notes, that's how consent works

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:35

ThatBlackCat · 25/08/2025 10:33

Just because you've seen other women fight in the ladies does not mean MALES should be in these facilities. You don't seem to possess critical thinking.

You are being unnecessarily rude.

ThatBlackCat · 25/08/2025 10:35

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 09:52

I think similarly badly of you so we are even. You are stirring up hatred and it’s gross to see.

We're 'stirring up hatred' by defending the most basic and hard won female rights? ???Are the crumbs you get from male approval worth hurting your own vulnerable fellow females?

What would you actually do if you saw a transperson in the wrong toilet/changing room for their sex?
BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:36

Petitchat · 25/08/2025 10:31

I agree, it is puzzling.

I just don't get it when women put men before the genuine concerns, fears and safety of women and girls.

Crazy......

some women are deeply socialised to always put men first

Petitchat · 25/08/2025 10:37

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:30

You know nothing about me or my experiences. I won’t be shamed, browbeaten and chastised for not simply agreeing with you on this.

You wasn't "not simply agreeing"
You were laughing at concerns about men waiting at the sink.

There's a difference between laughing and not agreeing.

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:38

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:35

your no doesn’t override my yes

well yes it does actually

no always over rides yes. As a pp notes, that's how consent works

Edited

Not when it comes to mere opinion 🤦🏼‍♀️ my opinion is that it doesn’t bother me, and as I said no amount of name calling and insults to my intelligence will make me simply roll over and change that to fit in BUT I’m not stopping you from having yours.

ThatBlackCat · 25/08/2025 10:38

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/08/2025 09:54

It's not all about you. Public spaces have controlled entry because they are full of strangers and basic safeguarding rules need to be applied.

I've never had a problem with bananas, but asparagus can create an allergic reaction.

Posters like that are 'I'm alright Jack, fuck you' and have no empathy, compassion or ability to consider anyone else's needs but themselves.

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:39

Petitchat · 25/08/2025 10:37

You wasn't "not simply agreeing"
You were laughing at concerns about men waiting at the sink.

There's a difference between laughing and not agreeing.

Yes..because that poster didn’t elaborate beyond ‘waiting at the sink’.

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:40

ThatBlackCat · 25/08/2025 10:38

Posters like that are 'I'm alright Jack, fuck you' and have no empathy, compassion or ability to consider anyone else's needs but themselves.

Right back at you ThatBlackCat, no opinion that varies from yours is ok and you are being an unpleasant bully.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:41

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:39

Yes..because that poster didn’t elaborate beyond ‘waiting at the sink’.

a man who is somewhere he doesn't belong, who by definition of being where he is is waving red flags is waiting for you in an enclosed space..? it'd freak me out, that's for sure

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:42

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:38

Not when it comes to mere opinion 🤦🏼‍♀️ my opinion is that it doesn’t bother me, and as I said no amount of name calling and insults to my intelligence will make me simply roll over and change that to fit in BUT I’m not stopping you from having yours.

that's fine

I'd suggest taking the piss out of women for having legitimate fears doesn't show much empathy, but obviously empathy is not compulsory

saraclara · 25/08/2025 10:43

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 25/08/2025 08:26

Gut instinct: that's a bloke in a dress
Social conditioning thoughts: be kind, he's doing no harm

Social conditioning won. Then he sexually assaulted me with his penis.

Did you report this? Was he arrested?

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/08/2025 10:44

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:30

You know nothing about me or my experiences. I won’t be shamed, browbeaten and chastised for not simply agreeing with you on this.

The issue with your posts, so far, is that they are simply dismissive and show no awareness or consideration of the issues which have bveen discussed.

If you disagree, why not try to explain with some more detail why you disagree? Short, curt responses are simply provocative and feel more like a bout than a discussion.

I picture you as quite young, without children as you seem oblivious to the many issues women face when it comes to their sex; their biology; their position in relation to men in society; to the differences between males and females or to any other consideration which women and girls of all ages, nationalities, races or religions may face in their daily lives.

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 25/08/2025 10:44

Dominoeffecter · 25/08/2025 10:32

I haven’t said it does, in the same vein that your no doesn’t override my yes.

But it does. The SC ruling states that women's facilities are for biologically born females only.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 25/08/2025 10:45

saraclara · 25/08/2025 10:43

Did you report this? Was he arrested?

what's this, the third degree? what happened to 'we believe you'?

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