What would you actually do if you saw a transperson in the wrong toilet/changing room for their sex?

[FattyMcFattyArse]

I've been pondering this ever since the FWS decision and since I saw an obviously male transperson using the ladies at a service station. I initially froze and wanted to say something, but all my Britishness and female social conditioning made me just mutter under my breath and walk away in disgust.

What would you do?

What have you done?

What is the right thing to do?

They don't belong there, according to the law.

That still doesn't explain your laughing emoji response when I was concerned about men waiting at the sink.
This is a genuine concern of mine and you laughed.

Furthermore, there's been a few posts on this very thread where incidents HAVE taken place at the sink.

You are crying bully because people are challenging you on your curt, dismissive posts.

The law and SC are now on your side, and your employer need to be told they can be reported for breaching the law.

A man in the Ladies toilet is already showing no regard for the law or womens feelings which does suggest a certain mindset

yes. just the fact that he is going where he knows he's not wanted tells you an awful lot about him before he says or does anything else

We do know that you have not had the experiences with males that we have. It's not about you not agreeing with us that females are human, exist and deserve our hard won sex-based rights by our foremother feminists because you are on your knees for males. It's about your absolute lack of any empathy, compassion or care for your fellow sisters.

A Wetherspoon's at lunchtime.

Until I was in that position, I'd always thought I'd be disturbed/annoyed/whatever. But in reality, I wasn't. Which surprised me.

Like many things, the fear was different from the reality. But as a pp said, context is important. I got no feeling whatsoever that this particular person could be a threat. They were with a female friend, and clearly committed to the feminine persona.

Really?
You think a male 'waiting at the sink' in a ladies toilet needs elaboration?
Wow....

My responses are curt on every thread, that is the way I speak.

Except it does when it comes to designated female only spaces.

Yes, I do.

If one woman in a female only space says no, then yes, it does override it. That's how it works. One woman saying NO to males is the one who overrides.

Not when it’s just an opinion not a ruling

"Almost certainly"

But to answer your question, I suppose the same way I'm almost certain that most people I come across in life aren't plotting to do me harm.

What's more likely? That they're in there to assault me, or that they're in there to use the loo/change like everyone else? I guess I'm just happy to play the odds on that one.

By pointing out the dearth of critical thinking?

No, you are being unnecessarily rude by showing hate, lack of compassion and lack of empathy to vulnerable women and girls.

Would you take the same approach to employing people to work with your children? Just assume that most people are well intentioned and that means no safeguarding measures are required?

I'm an unpleasant bully for defending my hard won sex-based rights? Wow....

Nothing. I would just get on with doing my business.

I have better things to do than scrutinise everyone who uses a public toilet to try to spot a trans woman.

I would find it really weird if there was a woman in a public toilet who was staring at everyone who comes in an out by the way...that would make me feel uncomfortable.

Exactly.

Men who have no right to be in single sex spaces are very publicly saying one or more of the following:

1. I don't give a shit about the law
2. I don't give a shit about the women and girls this law protects
3. I don't give a shit about the privacy and dignity of the women and girls using this toilet
4. I don't give a shit about whether women or girls feel safe
5. I don't give a shit about whether my behaviour causes alarm or distress
6. I may or may not decide to use my height and strength to overpower these women and girls and abuse them or worse. I will make that decision because that is the power I have.
7. I will rely on women and girls feeling powerless or being happy to look the other way in order that I be allowed to continue with the above.

The men who think this way are not men I want to share a toilet with - or for any women or girls to have to do so. These are not good men.

Furthermore, a man knowingly entering into a female only public space is not there just for innocent reasons...by the very nature of the transgression. He is showing he has no regard for the dignity of others ( female people especially) and prioritises his own needs for validation and the breaching of social boundaries, above all else.

At work, many years ago, I just avoided going to the toilets at the same time as him - he always seemed to want to linger and chat, but I just wanted to pee!

In public, like at a service station or at a restaurant, TBH, I'd keep my distance, but keep a wary eye, and once I was out, I'd watch for when he left - just as I would at anyone out of place.

Don't be daft! Nobody stands staring at the door. When a man enters a female only space you are very definitely aware of it straight away.

whether the naïveté is feigned or genuine, either way it’s astonishing