What would you actually do if you saw a transperson in the wrong toilet/changing room for their sex?

[FattyMcFattyArse]

I've been pondering this ever since the FWS decision and since I saw an obviously male transperson using the ladies at a service station. I initially froze and wanted to say something, but all my Britishness and female social conditioning made me just mutter under my breath and walk away in disgust.

What would you do?

What have you done?

What is the right thing to do?

They don't belong there, according to the law.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/trans-swimming-row-hampstead-heath-ladies-pond-3nmgvdm3k

Article in the Times today highlighting some of the experiences that women have had at Hampstead Ponds.

Nothing, I wouldn’t give a shit.

But of course the queuing that is typical of women's facilities is an added part of the thrill of transgression. This is not simply about relieving or dealing with bodily functions. It is about affirmation.

And if a male was waiting for you at the sinks when you emerge from your private toilet with locking door?

Would that change how you feel about it?
Or would you still be "fine"?

What is harmful is men trying to force entry into women's private spaces that have been set aside for female dignity, comfort nd safety. Many women will be too intimidated to say anything, but there will be a lot who will not. Any man who persists is by definition a wrong un' who has no respect for women/female people and who puts his own needs first....even with clear social signalling that they are doing something transgressive and wrong.

This happened to me in the toilets at work where I was doing a temporary Xmas job. It was before the SC ruling and he was a bona fide employee and, as one man very quietly said to me when I queried it, 'he's very protected in here' so I didn't feel I could challenge him without getting the boot.

It felt really claustrophobic just me and him there in a small area, he's a big man wearing a leather bustier and fishnets, thigh boots. In a parcel warehouse ffs. I kept waiting in the cubicle for him to go but he spent about 10 minutes adjusting his outfit.

Waiting for you at the sink 🤣

And if you had your two toddlers with you, and you had to leave the dooor ajar so you could keep an eye on the youngest in their pushchair, whilst you dealt with menstrual flooding?

Yes, typically to engage in girly 'toilet talk' to further enhance the validation.

Any man who has entered a designated female only space is not there by accident

Wow.....

In real life I don’t think many people would react, maybe some would raise an eyebrow . Actually the people who would comment are generally the troublemakers that I’d be more worried about being in the toilets with!! Just my opinion (I know a friend robbed by a woman in a bathroom and another who had a group of girls pull her bag away and then kick the crap out of her outside the pub afterwards because she didn’t give it up)

And..

Sounds like you were in the night time economy in a club or similar?

Just because it does not bother you personally( in one type of social situation) it doesn't make it right. You could clearly tell he was male, or else you would not have noticed, or commented.

Have you always been confused why there is single sex toilets and changing rooms, @stayathomer?

It depends on a few things - are they making a big deal of it, are there cubicles, is there a reception area/manager who I can ask to move them? I don't want myself or my daughter to have to change in front of a man I don't know.

You need to complete your sentence, or else I haven't got a clue what your point is.

Just now it seems as if your general atitude could well be a very aggressively self centred one.

Carry on about my business knowing that they almost certainly want to be left alone to carry on about theirs.

One day you'll be glad of the 'troublemakers' who step in to protect you when you are being abused in public, or when someone is behaving in an inappropriate way towards you in a public situation.We have rules and boundaries in pubic situations in order to maintain civility and respect for each other.

I don’t NEED to do anything to help you comprehend, I don’t understand your point and what the problem you are trying to describe is, equally I don’t care enough to demand you clarify. Aggressively self centred 😆

Which they should do in the male toilets.

Any man who knowingly enters into a designated female only space is being intentionally transgressive.

OMG that's awful. I mean, really awful. What the hell.

I’ve had no problems with the trans women I’ve shared facilities with but seen women/girls get battered by other women.

I wouldn't do anything.

Yes, it's all about you. That is clear. But generally on this forum we are concerned with the rights, dignity and protections for the female sex more generally...not just our own.,