First trans comedian to win Edinburgh comedy award

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Because of course he did.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgvz090195o

Note to MN and monitors. Nicoresti is described as a "trans woman", therefore biologically male, therefore "he" is factually correct.

Wouldn't you only need to have seen at least one who was funnier?

I watched. Looked and sounded like a man.

If he genuinely was the funniest comedian then fine, but I somehow doubt it.

Ooh ooh ooh, I get it 🙋‍♀️ it's cos girls don't like football! We just like bubble baths and nail polish and kittens, and we scream when we see mud. I'm so happy that there's finally a woman to truly represent us in such a traditionally sexist profession. No doubt more hilarious jokes to follow about periods and boy trouble, and that time she burnt her pink cupcakes. So nice to feel seen.

Funniest thing in this thread so far is someone calling him "she"

Yes, that was a bit of a slip up

The Comically Unfunny Award.

@OtherS 😂 😆 come back laugh emoji!

it's cos girls don't like football!

Well obviously, as trans children’s books will tell you, girls who are interested in football are clearly actually boys and should immediately be medicated with harmful drugs, instructed to lie to their classmates, leave home and move in with a ‘glitter family’ and have a party thrown for them.

I don’t really care. As others have said it’s not a women’s award. More interesting, to me at least, is the fact the BBC have written the article in such a way that they don’t need to use a pronoun for him.

“No one is asking you to prove you're funny, they're there to have a good time and to listen.“

Sounds like the set was a preach to the choir job.

What does this even mean?

Yes, I noticed that, whereas they do for Ayoade Bamgboye.

The loudest laughter from men in the audience (or perhaps trans women…). It was very average comedy IMO. Nothing innovative nor clever. All a bit obvious but perhaps it might not land so well with me because I love football and hate bath bombs.

As an aside, and SN is not the first to do this, but dismissing concerns about physical danger and unfairness presented by trans men in women’s sports for a few laughs says a lot about them as a person to me.

Comedy is incredibly subjective though. I only find about half the winners funny. One of my favourite comedians Kevin Bridges was beaten in this award by Sara Pascoe, I don’t think she’s funny and find her presence on sewing bee mildly irritating. I’m sure the panel thought she was funnier at the time and that lots of people enjoy her stuff. It’s just not for me,

I watched this clip. That's some brass neck to make jokes about what women do in the toilets then have a pop at "hack comedians" for doing the exact same jokes..

He's not even the first trans comedian to win though. Nanette won a few years back and she's "non binary", although maybe wasn't at the time? Is transness backdated?

I also watched the clip and found it quite unfunny. I also agree that it's interesting he picked a male runner as his competitor. He could have easily picked a very good female runner who is also a UK household name like Paula Radcliffe.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart to whoever gave him this award and to the BBC for publicising it.

People will be watching that video and thinking ‘but he’s clearly a man, I thought you couldn’t tell the difference but you can’, and ‘but it’s not fair for men to race against women’.

Voilà: A few more people in the nation are peaked.

Observational comedy needs to observe real life accurately though - he didn’t.

NC

I knew Sam way back and haven't spoken to him for years. I knew he was into gender stuff more recently but hadn't realised he was fully identifying as a woman.

He was quite funny and did work hard on his comedy so I assume that is still the case although the clips of this set don't seem that amusing. I think that's the material rather than him though as trans material has been done to death.

He was very arrogant and a bit of an arsehole to those around him. A bit of a jokey banter type that verged into minor bullying sometimes. That quote from him in the article 'oh swell' etc is how he used to talk quite a lot.

All of this is quite common to male comedians in my experience, especially those that continue on as an adult instead of dabbling a bit when young then getting a 'proper job'. You need a fair bit of narcissism to keep going with stand up comedy.

Sam also had the benefit of a well off family supporting him so could get past the starving artist phase that weeds out many.

He does work hard at comedy and is talented but not sure he was the best for this award. Don't really care though as its not a female only award so wasn't won unfairly. There are always various motives in judging including politics so nothing new.

I’ve seen a few sofas in loos over the years in fancier places, hotels mostly. Prestonfield house hotel in Edinburgh used (not been for years) to have an amazing pink chaise longue in the ladies.

I’ve seen a few sofas in loos over the years in fancier places, hotels mostly. Prestonfield house hotel in Edinburgh used (not been for years) to have an amazing pink chaise longue in the ladies.

When I saw this item on the BBC website last night I immediately just googled for reviews, not trusting either the Fringe or mad old Auntie to be impartial in the slightest. Skimmed through a couple and got the impression of a fairly decent but not spectacularly funny comic, kind of B minus, must try harder. Mention was made of a routine about trying to buy a two piece suit in TK Maxx - I presume skirt suit, otherwise he wouldn't be a ground breaking comedy genius - but wasn't tempted enough by the somewhat tepid reviews to check. Didn't see anything to justify Fringe Award, but I'm sure all the head tilting I noted in the newer publicity stills must have made the cliched sounding material much funnier.

It's quite telling how even when you're making comedy about being trans, it's unfailingly sexist.

Was his entire act about being trans? Because if so, he's going to run out of material pretty quickly.

I agree with this. I don't care if they are saying it's the first trans person or non-binary person or gender fluid person or whatever winning the award, so long as it is not a man winning an award in a category that has been designated for women.