NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #44

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to last 2 weeks. However, after 2 weeks it was not complete and it adjourned part-heard. It resumed on 16 July and the last day of evidence had been intended to be 28 July with 2 days of submissions from counsel meaning that the hearing was to have ended on 30 July. However, it became apparent as the hearing progressed that this schedule wouldn't be followed.

The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton gave evidence from Thursday 6 February to Wednesday 12 February.
Access to view the hearing remotely was obtainable by sending an email request to [email protected] by 5pm on Wednesday 9 July. Detailed instructions were provided here:

drive.google.com/file/d/16-9POEZ7yHWUr6EmbfquJZO18Gv78bSm/view

The hearing is being live tweeted by x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-005 and tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-bd6. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.ph/WSSjg.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Links to previous threads #1 to #40 can be found in this thread: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 41: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379334-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-41 24 July 2025 to 25 July 2025
Thread 42: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379820-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-42 25 July 2025 to 25 July 2025
Thread 43: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379979-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-43 25 July 2025 to 26 July 2025

Another Smitten Kitchen fan - their carrot salad with harissa, mint and feta is fabulous. Not a particular fan of carrots and it’s still amazing.

Big thanks to @Firenzo for the MF gift link. I have essentially signed off from all housework/declutterring for the week, hurrah. I have however had to grudgingly renew my TV license as I live in the sticks and can’t get high enough broadband speeds for streaming services. Unless I get Starlink, which leaves me with the unedifying choice between the BBC and Musk. Sad times.

That because they have been wasting our money on ideology tosh. I make sure my in-laws etc claim their over 60 discount because of NT shenanigans. I stopped my membership

#sadtimes

Does anyone know what time we are expecting to start this morning?

Talking about scones, how about Sconehenge?
Full disclosure - I found this online, I did not bake them myself😐

From TT
Scheduled start time in Peggie v NHS Fife & Dr B Upton is 10 am. Our reporting will be on this thread. Two witnesses scheduled for today: Lindsey Nicoll, emergency nurse practitioner Fiona Wishart, emergency nurse practitioner

Thanks @MarieDeGournay

@BezMills

Another thank you for your marvellous commentary. This very sharp but humorous commentary has provided some much needed light relief to this nail biting trial.

TT on Nitter
Tribunal Tweets (@tribunaltweets) | nitter.poast.org

Apparently one of today's witnesses is the author of the below text messages, according to Boswelltoday on Twitter:

https://x.com/boswelltoday/status/1949540752792440970

Bez.
When this tribunal is over, could you get The Fifer to organise an NHSF Heritage Trail? Local landmarks such as The Changing Room, The Weeping Doctor's Parking Space etc.

Perhaps from the top deck of an open top bus in the hospital car park? Preferably with rain for added atmosphere.

Sad Times Tours.

Checking in.

Agreed, the Fifer commentary adds some much needed light relief to this horror show of a Tribunal. The comment about NC moving the rake into position is my favourite and still makes me smile when I think of it.

I'm still laughing at loddie stottin aboot in size 13 ballet pumps, and that was 2 weeks ago!

I missed Friday morning which from TT I would have found interesting, DrU clearly amended his notes retrospectively. Fife did a piss poor job of extracting the evidence from his phone.

Today I’m going to miss the first hour and a half. I think NCs cross of Lindsey will require Pete to make an appearance. I hope I’m logged on to hear it.

This witness will definitely trot out the homophobia slurs, totally blind to the fact that GI is homophobic to the very core.

Enjoy your holiday! Try not to get sand in your mobile, it's a bugger to remove.

@ItWasTheSaddestOfTimeshas!

Tried to, it was taken

Me too, that’s my favourite, followed closely by the football teams in Fridays IT guys testimony that had me howling!
@BezMillsis so talented, I can actually hear the Fifers voice

‘Your daughter is a lesbian so to offer support you must be willing to undress in front of a male co-worker’ - appears to be Lynsey’s take on the matter.

I have used Sad Times twice this weekend gone, Both times when my kids were being ridiculous about something.

I say it in a droll Aussie accent. It’s universal.

What colour plaque should they put on the wall outside The (Sad Times) Change Room?

Maybe Netflix will make a White Lotusey series?!

Raspberry coloured, has to be surely?

Am I the only one who treats an appearance by Pete like the entrance on Norm in Cheers?

I expect Sandie's daughter will be on x later on. And she shouldn't have to be. These slurs are awful.