Nurse who challenged trans doctor for using female changing rooms is cleared

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An NHS nurse has been cleared of misconduct after challenging a trans doctor who used a female changing room.

Sandie Peggie was accused of misconduct by NHS Fife after questioning the presence of Dr Beth Upton.

Margaret Gribbon, Ms Peggie’s solicitor, said in a statement: “On Tuesday July 14, the evening before the resuming of her tribunal, Sandie Peggie received confirmation from Fife health board that following a disciplinary hearing, none of the gross misconduct allegations against her were upheld.

“This follows a disciplinary hearing on June 25, which considered four gross misconduct allegations: two relating to patient care failures, one of ‘misgendering’ Dr Upton, and one relating to her encounter with Dr Upton in the workplace female-only changing room on Christmas Eve 2023.

“Sandie is relieved and delighted that this 18-month-long internal process has concluded and cleared her of all allegations.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/16/nhs-nurse-cleared-of-misconduct-after-challenging-trans-doc/

I doubt very much he even sees himself as a woman. I believe he is a sociopathic predator who knows exactly what he is doing and gets off on the power over women and entering their spaces. He knows he's not a woman. He's evil and it's a game he's playing.

I think this is the case for some trans-women but I don’t get that vibe from Dr Upton. I get misogynistic vibes sure… “I am better than women” vibes, not predatory tho. Not sure.

Also as a female patient who suffers from genuine gynae issues, how can I feel confident seeing a doctor such as Dr Upton? I would feel that their bias and inability to empathise and relate to me in the way that a biological female would would be a barrier to me. In the same way that I would request a female doctor for this very reason.

This has been illustrated by the fact that their comfort and preference trumped that of a biological female nurse - and this was a colleague !

Indeed. Makes one wonder what his bedside manner was like. <shudders>

The point at which I lost every last vestige of sympathy for Dr Upton was when he stated on oath that if a woman had asked for same sex care, he would happily waltz in there and treat her. That is totally trampling upon consent. And that one statement alienated so many doctors who had previously not really thought much about this topic at all.

It absolutely does not!

Consent is fucking important! Consent is the sole proviso of the patient to give, not his to take.

He has already admitted in a court of law that even if a female patient had asked for same sex intimate care he would ignore her and continue unless she was able to advocate for herself and object!

Furthermore he stated that if a patient was to object to him presenting himself for intimate care after she had requested same sex care that he would consider that an act of aggression, which he could then use to bar the patient from medical care!

To borrow an old MN favourite, are you on glue?!

Then you need to get reading!

You could start here NHS Fife tries to silence nurse | Mumsnet

Upton does not see himself as a woman.

He sees himself as separate to men, but not the same as women. He sees himself above women.

Stating he is biologically female is a demonstration of power and control over women.

It is not a statement that he sees himself as a woman.

Understand what is actually going on by reading the full details of the case.

I'd also like to point out that Upton is in a heterosexual relationship with his actually biologically female wife.

I think that's quite important to remember in this discussion regarding the non-consent of his female patients asking for same sex intimate care.

@Twiglets Legally if he touches a female patient without consent it is assault. If he conducts an intimate examination that would be assault by penetration and abuse of trust. A custodial sentence would be appropriate. However the female would need to know and be willing to give evidence and she's probably be gaslit by everyone.

Since that is the legal position perhaps we could agree he has the intention to commit crimes against women.

And I still don’t understand why it should matter if he thinks of himself as female or not. He is a trained doctor and he should understand this basic objective fact. He is male and it is an objective fact.

@Helleofabore but under oath he testified that sex is nebulous and he is a woman

Yes. I watched him do it.

He’s a predator. He deliberately invaded the female changing room and persecuted a woman brave enough to say no. He tried to have her sacked because she wouldn’t go along with his fantasy.

@Twiglets1 if I really really see myself as a doctor and buy a white coat and stethoscope off Amazon, should I be allowed to treat patients even though I have no medical training? Or is it only men who claim to be female thst get thst prerogative?

His state of mind at the time will still be taken into account & there is plenty of evidence that he sees himself as female ( even if many of us consider him delusional).

Why? Is the state of mind of any other man taken into account when they disregard a woman's consent?

Dr Upton has stated he will disregard the consent of female patients and treat them anyway.

Dr Upton disregarded Sandie Peggie's lack of consent to share a changing room with him and undress in front of him.

I know exactly what I think of a man who does that, how about you?

100%.

I am catching up on the case and missed the whole part of Upton in court.

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Has he ever been asked if he has already examined or treated anyone, male or female, particularly involving any intimate procedure, whilst "presenting as a woman", ie. as "Beth" rather than as Theodore?

I think by him ignoring the consent and awareness of biological women — this is in fact misogyny in action. He has little regard and empathy for biological women. His preferences trump theirs. He is narcissistic and entitled. This is not a doctor I would like to be treated by, and I’m surprised he’s allowed to practice.

I think trans medical staff or indeed all medical staff need to undergo reflective practice about this very dilemma. No one should be allowed to pass whereby they are ignoring or deliberately going against the consent of patients. This is in fact dangerous and poor patient care.

It is also very interesting (and eye-opening) how manipulative he is — whereby he raised supposed patient care concerns against Sandie. It is him himself that is guilty of that, not Sandie.

You’ll get a really good idea of how he was in court and his general character from reading the visceral reaction of women watching live and following TT to his testimony and whole performative circus, preserved for posterity in threads no 4-15 of the live tribunal threads.

I’m not sure if he was asked if he had already done so, it was more a question in the realm of hypotheticals.

I think this hits quite a few points.

https://x.com/boswelltoday/status/1946093087547396541?s=12

“If Peggie wins, Teddy Upton will not walk away untouched. He will become the man whose presence in a female changing room leads to a legal finding that a woman’s rights were violated.

No policy will protect him. No pronouns will undo it. The judgment will stand as a public reckoning—her sex-based boundaries will be upheld, and his identity claim will be shown to have come at her expense.

This will not blow over. It will follow him into every job interview, every safeguarding discussion, every room where women’s trust must be earned. HR departments will take notice. Employers will think twice. His name will come with a question mark he cannot remove.

He will not just be remembered. He will be marked.”

I think for him, he will have felt that all he did was what the transgender support groups taught everyone was the acceptable way for him to think and behave.

Were none of the people giving their ‘evidence’ at the tribunal aware of the outcome of the disciplinary hearing?
Wouldn’t they have had to have been involved in it?

genuinely sees himself as female? Are you having a laugh, he is a sheep in wolfs clothing. There is not one single thing about this man female. He is married to a woman and according to reports trying for a baby!

It wouldnt matter anyway. Why if he genuinely saw himself as Jesus? Doesn't make it true.

If he can't be trusted to respect the need for womens consent, for whatever reason, he should be removed from his post.