Nurse who challenged trans doctor for using female changing rooms is cleared

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An NHS nurse has been cleared of misconduct after challenging a trans doctor who used a female changing room.

Sandie Peggie was accused of misconduct by NHS Fife after questioning the presence of Dr Beth Upton.

Margaret Gribbon, Ms Peggie’s solicitor, said in a statement: “On Tuesday July 14, the evening before the resuming of her tribunal, Sandie Peggie received confirmation from Fife health board that following a disciplinary hearing, none of the gross misconduct allegations against her were upheld.

“This follows a disciplinary hearing on June 25, which considered four gross misconduct allegations: two relating to patient care failures, one of ‘misgendering’ Dr Upton, and one relating to her encounter with Dr Upton in the workplace female-only changing room on Christmas Eve 2023.

“Sandie is relieved and delighted that this 18-month-long internal process has concluded and cleared her of all allegations.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/16/nhs-nurse-cleared-of-misconduct-after-challenging-trans-doc/

Trying for a baby. WTF?!

This 100%

My reason for asking was this seems a very obvious question if he has also been quizzed about what he would do in future.

Given what we know about him already, it seems highly unlikely that he would have explained himself to any patient before examining or treating them.

What I have also missed is whether A&E was his first rotation as "Beth".

Having spent time extremely ill, unconscious or drugged up to the eye-balls on morphine on several occasions in A&E, Assessment Admissions, High Dependency Unit, mixed-sex and (supposedly) single-sex pre-op and post-op women's wards or bays over the years, medics don't always even introduce themselves adequately or intelligibly before they "touch" your body externally or internally. That or the patient is not in a position to be fully or even partly aware of the invasion, let alone the sex of the medic or nurse.

So I am wondering how confident Upton is that a previous patient will not come forward with a complaint that Upton assaulted them? Or how confident NHS Fife is that Upton has never examined or treated a patient who had previously requested a female-only service?

(The Sandie Peggie threads have already rehearsed all the arguments about whether or not it is reasonable or practical for a patient to expect female-only care on A&E so I don't want to re-open that debate.)

As far as patient wishes and consent are concerned, I am also wondering if that preference is recorded in NHS England Spine records and Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland equivalents? (And if not, why not?)

NHS SCOTLAND

Emergency care summary

Most patients in Scotland now have an Emergency Care Summary containing basic information about your health in case of an emergency.

NHS staff can also use your Emergency Care Summary if your GP refers you to an outpatient clinic or for admission to hospital to check your details.

Before any member of staff looks at your Emergency Care Summary, they must get your consent.

Specialist health records

Patients with particular needs or living with long-term conditions may also have a Key Information Summary containing information that NHS staff should know.
The Key Information Summary might contain:

• an emergency contact
• information about a patients condition
• what treatment the patient is having

https://www.nhsinform.scot/care-support-and-rights/health-rights/confidentiality-and-data-protection/health-records

I would have thought NHS Fife would have been on firmer ground if it had suspended Upton, ie. while it opened an investigation to find out if he had already assaulted any patients.

They mentioned in court then that currently he was also doing a rotation in anaesthesia @POWNewcastleEastWallsend which many people found chilling.

😱 JFC!!!

The male nurse called "Rose" in the Darlington nurses case is trying for a baby. I don't think I've seen any reports about Upton trying.

Sorry - I know a bit of an aside, but how can you be trans and also be trying for a baby? Surely that would make you intersex or something??

Huh? Why would being trans and trying for a baby mean you had a DSD? It means he’s a het bloke with a fetish.

Ok yea that’s more accurate - sorry getting confused with it all

This is "Rose" aka "Rosalie Willow" aka Tyler, the "woman" who is trying for a baby with his girlfriend, in between sexually harassing fellow nurses in Darlington.

😱

I think I see where you're coming from - WTF? is a valid reaction to people who claim they are no longer a man/woman but then go to great lengths to be a father/mother.

A woman who IDs as a man was recently refused a GRC because she was trying to get pregnant - one of the requirements of getting a GRC is committing to live your life in your new 'gender', and it was felt that committing yourself to living your life as a man and trying to get pregnant was totally WTF??
Trans man denied Gender Recognition Certificate over attempt to conceive | Mumsnet

A lot ? many? men who ID as women keep their male genitalia and seem to be prepared to go on using it. Them. Whatever

It doesn't make them 'intersex' or suggest they have a DSD, it just means they say they are one thing, but biologically they are still the other... and... and.. if you're confused, that's the only reasonable reaction

Yes, that makes sense. Sorry if I confused it with a genuine group of people. It’s quite hard to get your head around it. That would surely mean they’re no longer transgender, they are something else… or they are identifying as one sex but living as another, I feel it requires another label. Though we have so many already. God, life is complicated isn’t it…

If that’s the case he is deluded and needs serious mental health support and should not be doing a job that requires supporting people (especially women) when they are often at their most vulnerable.

and his employers are at fault for playing along with that delusion

100% someone who is doing that to colleagues is unemployable

"Sorry if I confused it with a genuine group of people. It’s quite hard to get your head around it. That would surely mean they’re no longer transgender, they are something else… or they are identifying as one sex but living as another, I feel it requires another label."

This "genuine group of people" . . . who do you think they are?

It would be highly transphobic to suggest that "Rose aka Rosalie Willow aka Tyler" is not part of the "genuine group of people" who are transgender just because he wants to impregnate his girlfriend with his lesbian, female penis.

What are you? Some sort of bigot?

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😬🫣🫠🫨

How would you react, as clinical or non-clinical staff, if you turned up to work one day and discovered that Beth was your new colleague?

Very cautiously.

Look for another job.

I once interviewed a Very Ugly Short Stout Woman Wearing a Wig for a job. I honestly didn't twig but my boss did.

He basically self-excluded by banging on about how he would work above and beyond the Job Description when the advert clearly stated that there were strict boundaries to the job and no opportunities to expand the role.

Can't help but see a pattern now I am more aware.

What pattern?

I agree with this

Sandie refused to undress in front of him so he made up potentially career ending allegations against her.
As pp have said, he has admitted that he would lie to vulnerable women in order to examine them intimately. It seems that his gratification is more important than women's right to dignity and privacy.
This is very disturbing behaviour and this man should not have access to women, nor should he be in a position of power.
The senior people in the Trust should not have facilitated his behaviour.
The NHS always punishes whistle blowers.

More than that: it now appears he made a habit of compiling dossiers on female colleagues who would not comply.

archive.ph/JKEZe

"The Herald on Sunday is the only newspaper to have accessed the bundle."

That's a bit of a coup! IIRC it has been The Courier that has been better at reporting?