Nurse who challenged trans doctor for using female changing rooms is cleared

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An NHS nurse has been cleared of misconduct after challenging a trans doctor who used a female changing room.

Sandie Peggie was accused of misconduct by NHS Fife after questioning the presence of Dr Beth Upton.

Margaret Gribbon, Ms Peggie’s solicitor, said in a statement: “On Tuesday July 14, the evening before the resuming of her tribunal, Sandie Peggie received confirmation from Fife health board that following a disciplinary hearing, none of the gross misconduct allegations against her were upheld.

“This follows a disciplinary hearing on June 25, which considered four gross misconduct allegations: two relating to patient care failures, one of ‘misgendering’ Dr Upton, and one relating to her encounter with Dr Upton in the workplace female-only changing room on Christmas Eve 2023.

“Sandie is relieved and delighted that this 18-month-long internal process has concluded and cleared her of all allegations.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/16/nhs-nurse-cleared-of-misconduct-after-challenging-trans-doc/

Weasels doing reverse ferret but saying they are not.

Yes.

If they find that Sandie was harassed, then the charge of gross misconduct is vexatious. If it's vexatious and they find issue with the culture of trans policy at Fife being grossly bias, then that little sentence becomes problematic. If Sandy did everything by due process and the correct challenges then even more so.

If NC thinks this might be the case, I'm sure it will be raised - probably in summing up.

I hope that at some point Beth Upton is required to participate in a facilitated reflective discussion that covers how if an individual believes that their desires to have another person participate in an activity for their personal gratification (for example, getting changed in the same changing room as a means of validation) should actually ourweigh that person's right to consent or choose not to consent to participate, then that is a rapist mentality.

And NHS Fife should reflect on whether it is appropriate to be employing a doctor that doesn't believe that women have the right to give or withold consent to participate in activities for a male person's gratification, nor the right to choose their own beliefs.

Are you going to complain to the GMC really though?

I think it’s too much to suggest Dr Upton may potentially have a “rapist mentality”. He’s a person with feelings too and has not shown any desire to rape anyone.

Nor should he lose his job over this. He will have been punished enough I genuinely think when all this is over - the humiliation will be hard to bear. His employer has encouraged him to escalate things this far and should have settled things internally by finding a solution that worked for both him & Sandie without anyone getting suspended or having to take legal action for common sense to prevail.

Are you serious? Punished enough? He hasn't been punished at all! He's so self assured in his smug arrogance and entitlement he doesn't even think he's done wrong. Being sacked is only 5% of the punishment he deserves. And as far as rape, well, I think this from Germaine Greer sums it up:

Yep. 'Struggle session' was the first thing that popped into my head too.

Yes I’m serious.

It’s wrong to imply rapist mentality in this case.

Dr Upton is guilty of many things but no need to exaggerate. He isn’t guilty of every crime every man ever committed just because he is disliked.

He partly deserves the humiliation & condemnation by court of public opinion coming his way but partly not. His employer had a huge role to play in this mess too.

He could well be suicidal by the end of this process and I for one don’t want to join a lynch mob baying for his blood. I just want Sandie to win every charge against her and for NHS Fife to be charged with wasting taxpayers a horrific amount of money by letting a conflict between 2 employees escalate to this stage.

If Dr Upton thinks his rights to validation, or even just to use the female changing rooms/not explain that he is biologically male to patients actually outweigh the rights of women to say 'no' to his demands, then he has the mentallity of a rapist - as do those who support him.
He needs to face a disciplinary and (if patients have been deceived by him) struck off.

Completely agree with you. Also how has he not been charged with perjury when he stood in a court room and said he's a biological woman? I thought lying under oath was a criminal offence 🤷

He has deliberately invaded women's spaces, and in the process intentionally humiliated a woman suffering menstrual flooding in the one space she should have felt safe from prurient/prying eyes to deal with it. He has made false (she has been exonerated, remember) allegations of professional incompetence/negligence and false allegations of bullying and transphobia (still exonerated). And you think he shouldn't be punished for this egregious and malicious weaponisation of complaints procedure because a woman had the temerity to say no to him?

I don’t think he’ll be humiliated at all when this is over. I think he’ll be angry and still believe he was right. I think he will still believe he’s a woman and still believe he has the right to give intimate care to women who say they don’t want to be treated by a man without telling them he’s actually a man.

Remember there has been a case in the U.K. courts a few years ago where a woman pretending to be a man who had sex with another woman was sent to prison. It was deemed in court the victim hadn’t given informed consent and it therefore sexual assault.

so I do find his attitude rather worrying both ethically and legally..

Him having the mentality of a rapist is your opinion but not mine.

A male demanding why a woman is not undressing in front of him is pervert, sexual predator behaviour.

A male saying he is going to examine women without informed consent is sexual predator behaviour.

I read the "facilitative" bollocks as only applying to Upton. He is the accuser, it was false accusation, it is HE who needs this not Sandie Peggie surely?

Why would SP require attendance at such a Star Chamber does anyone know?

He genuinely sees himself as female so that has to be taken into account re examining women in his professional capacity as a doctor.

I hope she appeals the recommendation about a reflective discussion, and starts fresh early conciliation with a view to bringing a separate discrimination claim about that aspect of the disciplinary outcome.

No, that’s what he says. The point is, he’s a medical doctor. He does understand the difference between male and female. The “I’m biologically female” is just a line these men come out with. It’s gaslighting. Read up on narcissistic personality disorder.

Finally cleared. What an absolute circus this has been. Common sense should have prevailed many months ago. It should never even have happened and this result proves it.

I think that Germaine has always been clear on this. She recognised early the impact of a male person trangressing women's and girl's boundaries has on those women and girls. It is so often dismissed.

@Twiglets1 At the start of this case I felt the same way as you. I still feel that both people were badly failed by more senior staff. However unlike you when I heard about Upton's recording from the start of every imagined slight I realised that he was looking for a way to make trouble.

At a time when resident doctors are struggling to find work I'm afraid he deserves to be out of a job.

He wont be struck off, at most he'll be suspended and told to go away and reflect, but no sensible health authority should employ him.

We all need to have a vigilant, inner Sandie. To stamp out this sort of nonsense whenever it rears its (largely very) ugly head.

No, it doesn't have to be taken into account at all. It should be completely disregarded by the governing bodies who should dismiss any male person who presents themselves as being a female doctor when a patient has requested a female doctor.

He is genuinely wrong.

Perhaps Sandie should attend this session, with a legal representative. And ask why Upton isn't there, making a grovelling apology to her, then leave.

I am struggling to believe how desperate NHS Fife is here, they've found that she's done nothing wrong; they evidently realised that they were no longer in a position to condemn her and screech "Heretic!"

Even on their terms, she's not in the wrong, but the last desperate straw for them to clutch at is to try to pretend that she hasn't done quite enough nothing, so as to give the impression that her winning was simply some sort of technicality.

They're a disgrace.