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We thought Owen Jones couldn’t get more odious.. He has proved us wrong!

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Absentmindedsmile · 09/07/2025 05:20

https://archive.md/aOdSj

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‘[Owen] seems to be upset because she had a chuckle about his erratic behaviour on Piers Morgan Uncensored last week. In response to an X user who wondered if Jones might have partaken of the white stuff before fidgeting and gurning his way through Morgan’s show, Rowling tweeted: “Well, he is known as Talcum X.”

Jones is hopping mad. He’s even written a 1,300-word screed on what a rotter Rowling is, which I’m sure we can all agree is a perfectly normal response to a woman making a joke.’

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We thought Owen Jones couldn’t get more odious.. He has proved us wrong!
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DialSquare · 09/07/2025 08:46

As the article says, he’s a hypocrite. He’s very particular in what he speaks about too.

Miyagi99 · 09/07/2025 08:47

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/07/2025 08:24

Apparently he was on amphetamines which he'd been told were good for people with ADHD. It was mental to see him. Pier Morgan actually seemed concerned.

Amphetamines do have the opposite effect for people with ADHD, that’s why the NHS prescribes them.

User37482 · 09/07/2025 08:48

myheartskipsskipsabeat · 09/07/2025 08:39

He actually speaks a lot of sense and has consistently spoken out about the genocidal intent of Israel. Truth is JK Rowling hasn’t spoken out about the genocide and is clearly irritated that he called her out.

An you should definitely read the Aimen Dean takedown, it’s a very comprehensive dismantling of Owne Jones understanding of the middle east. Dean is an Arab, also ex alqaeda bomb maker if that helps his credibility.

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 09/07/2025 08:51

myheartskipsskipsabeat · 09/07/2025 08:39

He actually speaks a lot of sense and has consistently spoken out about the genocidal intent of Israel. Truth is JK Rowling hasn’t spoken out about the genocide and is clearly irritated that he called her out.

He's entitled to express his views, but it's unreasonable to demand Rowling focus on exactly the same issues as him.

By the same token, I don't agree with Brendan O'Neill criticising Jones for not focussing on the plight of Afghani women.

There's so much ill in the world, it's not possible for anyone to focus on all the things all the time.

OJ is a twit though.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 09/07/2025 08:52

I can’t get over his imperious end your silence. Would this go well on a bag or T-shirt?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 09/07/2025 08:55

myheartskipsskipsabeat · 09/07/2025 08:39

He actually speaks a lot of sense and has consistently spoken out about the genocidal intent of Israel. Truth is JK Rowling hasn’t spoken out about the genocide and is clearly irritated that he called her out.

Please quote this ‘sense’ that he speaks, as I’ve yet to witness it. To be fair I can’t bear to hear him speak anymore and switch off when I see him on the telly so I may have missed this new sense speaking.

Why on earth does JKR, as an author and women’s rights defender, owe you her thoughts on conflict in the Middle East? What else should she be commenting on? It’s such a bizarre view. Like a PP said, men (or anyone) don’t get to demand anything from women, let alone an opinion. They are looking for another stick to beat her with. If you hadn’t noticed before - she’s not stupid.

CassOle · 09/07/2025 08:55

I found this on Nitter.

https://nitter.poast.org/AimenDean/status/1942557852377162091#m

anotherside · 09/07/2025 08:55

Chersfrozenface · 09/07/2025 08:25

So was he self-medicating for a self-diagnosed condition?

If so, how very on-trend.

No, he posted a video two years ago on YouTube called “So, I have ADHD “. In which he explains (from around 7:50 mark in the video) that he was diagnosed by a qualified psychiatrist, ie a medical doctor. So in light of that I’d say that Rowling’s joke about illicit drug use was in pretty awful taste, as are many of the comments on this thread.

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2025 08:58

'JK Rowling has one of the biggest platforms on earth. Here’s what she could have used her platform to talk about, but chose not to."

Fuck me. Imagine actually thinking this is a morally righteous way to act.

He's desperate to control what women talk about, and on what subject.

That essay also instructs feminists on what to talk about, fwiw.

I don't know who made him Chief Feminist.

inspiringminionquote · 09/07/2025 08:58

oh of course he has ADHD.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 09/07/2025 08:58

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 09/07/2025 08:52

I can’t get over his imperious end your silence. Would this go well on a bag or T-shirt?

It's an attempt to force her into a purity circle, the cultist love them. The only way to prove your the 'right' sort of person is by self flagellating yourself on social media, begging for forgiveness from the anointed, which OJ considers himself to be.

User37482 · 09/07/2025 08:59

CassOle · 09/07/2025 08:55

Fascinating man, he’s definitely been right about some stuff over the years.

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2025 08:59

Actually I expect the grubby truth is that like Jo Maugham, Jones knows that talking about/attacking JKR is a surefire way to generate clicks.

This is how he makes a living, remember.

WaitedBlankey · 09/07/2025 09:01

myheartskipsskipsabeat · 09/07/2025 08:39

He actually speaks a lot of sense and has consistently spoken out about the genocidal intent of Israel. Truth is JK Rowling hasn’t spoken out about the genocide and is clearly irritated that he called her out.

Sense like “I saw no evidence of rape” in response to the footage of Hama’s attack on October 7th?
That sort of wilfull blindness “sense”?

moofolk · 09/07/2025 09:02

Quirkswork · 09/07/2025 08:43

Such a strange approach to things. Why should JK speak out about anything at all? Particularly something that is nothing to do with her?

Because she has spoken in defence of Israel, so appears to be condoning a genocide which has killed tens of thousands of women and children.

And her & many prominent GCs mock pro Palestine activists, ie people with hearts who cannot stomach to watch a live streamed genocide.

It must be racism. So it’s very disappointing to see that the TRAs were right. Many GCs are bigoted racists who, far from having a rounded analysis of gender ideology, are just transphobic.

She has influence and lots of people take her racism as approval for their own. At this point, silence is complicity. That’s why she should speak out.

Because the BBC describes Hamas as genocidal but not an actual genocide as genocidal.

Because at this stage anyone who isn’t speaking out about the atrocities that our government is involved in in Gaza is a complicit.

Because in October 2023 it was understandable to think this came out of nowhere, but almost two years on everyone has had time to realise that Isreal has been occupying and raping Palestinians since 1948.

Samas · 09/07/2025 09:02

Was this a show OJ was on?

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 09/07/2025 09:04

myheartskipsskipsabeat · 09/07/2025 08:39

He actually speaks a lot of sense and has consistently spoken out about the genocidal intent of Israel. Truth is JK Rowling hasn’t spoken out about the genocide and is clearly irritated that he called her out.

It would be a full time job if she was expected to speak out about every cause, or are you just concerned about the trending ones that allow people to virtue signal.

Because if you are annoyed she hasn't spoken out about the situation in Gaza, then surely you would also expect her to speak about:

Sudan – Genocide in Darfur (Masalit people)

Myanmar – Rohingya genocide, military atrocities

Ethiopia – War crimes in Amhara and Tigray

Democratic Republic of Congo – War crimes, ethnic violence

Nagorno-Karabakh / Armenia – Ethnic cleansing of Armenians

Afghanistan – Taliban persecution of women, minorities

Haiti – Gang violence, murder, rape, child conscription

Southern Kaduna, Nigeria – Ethnic and religious killings

Mali – Executions by army and Russian mercenaries

Amazon Basin (Brazil, Peru, Colombia) – Indigenous violence and cultural genocide

Personally, I think it is far more effective when people focus their energy on causes they feel passionate about, rather than bowing to pressure to tick a box to prove they are falling in line with whatever cause has people obsessing.

DialSquare · 09/07/2025 09:04

CassOle · 09/07/2025 08:55

freddie highmore GIF by A&E

Ouch!

anotherside · 09/07/2025 09:04

Jones is hopping mad. He’s even written a 1,300-word screed on what a rotter Rowling is, which I’m sure we can all agree is a perfectly normal response to a woman making a joke.

Not really. He brought up the Palestine issue in that article about Rowling as that was what he was discussing on the Pier’s Morgan show. However, rather than comment on this extremely serious issue (fair enough, we don’t have to have an opinion on anything) she instead chose to make a silly and nasty joke (two in fact) about his reaction to medication he was in during the interview for his ADHD condition. Hence Owen then writing an article questioning her priorities seeing that she is as an extremely influential public figure.

TalcumX · 09/07/2025 09:06

"Jones is hopping mad. He’s even written a 1,300-word screed on what a rotter Rowling is"

SCREED???

Hmphhhh.

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/07/2025 09:06

myheartskipsskipsabeat · 09/07/2025 08:39

He actually speaks a lot of sense and has consistently spoken out about the genocidal intent of Israel. Truth is JK Rowling hasn’t spoken out about the genocide and is clearly irritated that he called her out.

As you must be aware....genocide is a heavily contested term. People can talk about the conflict without heaving to refer to it as "a genocide". But let's acknowledege what brought about this awful situation in the first place...and that was the planned massacre of people living in Israel.

Women were gang raped and one woman had her breast sliced off as that happened. Another woman's body was paraded around on the back of a truck for men to spit on. Women were stripped, tied to trees and had their genitals mutilated. Children were shot in their beds. Teenage girls were raped in front of their parents.

KnottyAuty · 09/07/2025 09:06

Miyagi99 · 09/07/2025 08:47

Amphetamines do have the opposite effect for people with ADHD, that’s why the NHS prescribes them.

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Which is why I couldn’t understand why he was so hyper. If he’s been properly diagnosed and completed a supervised titration he wouldn’t have presented as he did. Dashing off a long article - seems like for him the truth hurts

AnotherGreyMorning · 09/07/2025 09:07

Both Owen Jones and Brendan O'Neill are odious turds.

Nchangeo · 09/07/2025 09:07

Women are scared men will kill them. Men are scared women will laugh at them.
Margaret Atwood

StormyPotatoes · 09/07/2025 09:08

anotherside · 09/07/2025 09:04

Jones is hopping mad. He’s even written a 1,300-word screed on what a rotter Rowling is, which I’m sure we can all agree is a perfectly normal response to a woman making a joke.

Not really. He brought up the Palestine issue in that article about Rowling as that was what he was discussing on the Pier’s Morgan show. However, rather than comment on this extremely serious issue (fair enough, we don’t have to have an opinion on anything) she instead chose to make a silly and nasty joke (two in fact) about his reaction to medication he was in during the interview for his ADHD condition. Hence Owen then writing an article questioning her priorities seeing that she is as an extremely influential public figure.

Edited

Please. One would think a man who writes a 1300 word essay, and numerous never ending threads (including a 27-tweet thread about it) doth protest too much.

Do you have any thoughts on OJ denying that Hamas raped Israeli women whilst you are condemning women for not saying what you want them to?

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