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arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness

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happydappy2 · 05/07/2025 16:50

Montgomery Toms has been arrested for wearing a sign showing the pink & blue stripes of trans=mental illness.

Arrested. What has happened to free speech in this country?

https://x.com/ESpeaksFreely/status/1941518454466748461

https://x.com/ESpeaksFreely/status/1941518454466748461

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FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 09:38

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 00:02

There have been a few of those signs which are dragged out over and over on here. Trans people are often told they shouldn't exist on social media etc and have vile dehumanising things said to them. Just leave them be and maybe all this can end. I think it all began because of the backlash against them, why can't people just live and let live. Posey Parker is an awful person too.
Militant Suffragettes were violent too.

In all my years on this, I have never, NEVER seen anyone tell trans they "shouldn't 'eXiSt' " Not once. That's a load of bullshit. They 'exist'. They exist as human beings. They exist as male or female. The pushback is by feminists because males identifying as transwomen eroded our boundaries, entered our safe female only spaces, and cheated us out of medals. Feminists started getting justifiably angry and pushed back. It is transwomen that won't let us females live our lives away from males however they identify.

You want to talk about vile, @MoodyAndBlue ? Come back to us when women and girls give males death threats and RAPE THREATS like these. The vile comments are all from the transwomen who are showing Male Pattern Aggression.

arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness
arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness
arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness
arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness
FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 09:44

Fromage · 05/07/2025 17:24

I am not on board with his slogan.

I think it stigmatises mental illness. He's not saying it in a positive, caring way, is he?

And tbh the abusive members of the trans movement might suffer from any type of illness, but that's not the problem, is it? The problem is the abuse, and the perverts, and the anger, and the demands.

Being trans isn't a mental illness. Being an angry creepy weirdo is condemnable on its own.

I think it's both a mental illness and being an angry creepy weirdo. It doesn't need to be only one or the other.

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 09:47

youreactinglikeafunmum · 05/07/2025 17:28

😭😭 GOOD

Okay, youre not pro trans. Why come to pride and try to make people feel bad

Also, note, Palestinian activists were arrested for simply asking for the genocide to stop. That's something worth being upset about.

So you're authoritarian and fascist and feel someone doesn't have the right to protest at Pride.

But I bet you are fine with trans activists who are no pro women protesting at Let Women Speak.... Which makes you a hypocrite.

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 09:51

TeenToTwenties · 05/07/2025 17:28

I think that is encouraging trouble at a pride event. Unnecessarily provocative.

Maybe, but it's ok for these same people to protest at Let Women Speak events, drown us out on loud speakers, while carrying signs saying we should be 'decapitated' and 'the only good terf is a dead terf'?

But that is ok? Heaven forbid feminists might ONCE, just ONCE, fight back, right?

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/07/2025 09:59

SammyScrounge · 06/07/2025 03:15

They were arrested for being members of a banned terrorist group., banned after some members caused millions worth of damage to military equipment.
Who knows what the next stunt would have been.

Military equipment that would've been used to kill children.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/07/2025 10:00

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 09:47

So you're authoritarian and fascist and feel someone doesn't have the right to protest at Pride.

But I bet you are fine with trans activists who are no pro women protesting at Let Women Speak.... Which makes you a hypocrite.

😭😭 authoritarian and fascist?

Not at all

But being a dick at pride is the same as wearing a 'go home muslims' at an eid celebration - likely to cause danger and unnecessary upset

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 10:06

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/07/2025 10:00

😭😭 authoritarian and fascist?

Not at all

But being a dick at pride is the same as wearing a 'go home muslims' at an eid celebration - likely to cause danger and unnecessary upset

I notice you didn't address this part of my post; But I bet you are fine with trans activists who are no pro women protesting at Let Women Speak.... Which makes you a hypocrite.

Are they not 'being a dick' to women and 'likely to cause danger and unnecessary upset'?

And what's with the silly little crying emoticons? Are you 12?

MyQuirkyTraybake · 06/07/2025 10:07

TeenToTwenties · 05/07/2025 17:28

I think that is encouraging trouble at a pride event. Unnecessarily provocative.

Pride is unnecessary provocative. I don't think men dressed in thongs and dog ears celebrate or represent our sexuality in a positive light at all. Look at how decent and respectful pride marches used to be, people dressed like normal, simply marching hand in hand for equality of marriage and love. Now it's been co-opted.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/07/2025 10:11

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 10:06

I notice you didn't address this part of my post; But I bet you are fine with trans activists who are no pro women protesting at Let Women Speak.... Which makes you a hypocrite.

Are they not 'being a dick' to women and 'likely to cause danger and unnecessary upset'?

And what's with the silly little crying emoticons? Are you 12?

Having a counter protest isnt illegal

Infiltrating a pro women protest with signs saying 'all women are stupid' or 'kill jk rowling' is wrong and deserves an arrest too 🤷‍♀️

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 10:11

Hallehills · 05/07/2025 17:40

Right?! The only reason this person did this was to upset others at an event about celebration. Sad.

Like how trans activists turn up to feminist events with signs saying to decapitate us, that we shouldn't exist, and that we should be hanged and burned?

Like that?

Yes, that is truly sad.

NotBadConsidering · 06/07/2025 10:13

In order for trans to not be a mental illness - because believing your soul has been born into the wrong body and needs drastic medical alterations to fix the problem sure sounds like a mental illness to me - it requires the existence of what’s known as an “innate gender identity”. We have been asking for proof of the existence of such a thing but none seems to be forthcoming, to the bafflement of no one.

So the question is why should someone be arrested for a sign stating a perfectly valid opinion?

Datun · 06/07/2025 10:14

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 09:38

In all my years on this, I have never, NEVER seen anyone tell trans they "shouldn't 'eXiSt' " Not once. That's a load of bullshit. They 'exist'. They exist as human beings. They exist as male or female. The pushback is by feminists because males identifying as transwomen eroded our boundaries, entered our safe female only spaces, and cheated us out of medals. Feminists started getting justifiably angry and pushed back. It is transwomen that won't let us females live our lives away from males however they identify.

You want to talk about vile, @MoodyAndBlue ? Come back to us when women and girls give males death threats and RAPE THREATS like these. The vile comments are all from the transwomen who are showing Male Pattern Aggression.

God, the hate. The hate is quite awful

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 10:17

Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/07/2025 17:50

In all honesty I think it’s a stupidly unhelpful thing to have done

all it does is allow TRA to peddle their ‘most vulnerable ever’ victims narrative again and it’s highly unlikely that the BBC for example are going to balance their coverage of this with all the TRA signs at Prides across UK about punching and killing TERFS

so yeah - definitely a ‘you’re not helping’ moment

I agree it was a stupid thing to do. I would have preferred it better if it was a womens rights sign if they were going to gatecrash Pride. That would have made more sense.

But the frustrating thing is, trans are allowed to do it to us and get away with it, yet we have to hold back because of their as you said 'most vulnerable ever' victims narrative. It just really doesn't seem fair.

CorvusPurpureus · 06/07/2025 10:19

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/07/2025 10:11

Having a counter protest isnt illegal

Infiltrating a pro women protest with signs saying 'all women are stupid' or 'kill jk rowling' is wrong and deserves an arrest too 🤷‍♀️

But LWS isn't a protest. It's an opportunity for, duh, women to speak about women's rights.

So rocking up & trying to threaten & menace those women into shutting up...is not a counter protest. It's just threatening & menacing behaviour.

But I'm glad to see you accept that threatening signs at pro women events are not OK. Try expressing that opinion on TRA reddit & see how fast you get called a terf...

ArabellaScott · 06/07/2025 10:22

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/07/2025 10:00

😭😭 authoritarian and fascist?

Not at all

But being a dick at pride is the same as wearing a 'go home muslims' at an eid celebration - likely to cause danger and unnecessary upset

'Being a dick'

Always makes me think of the Wi Spa.

I understand what you mean about provocation. But that's exactly what a public protest is.

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 06/07/2025 10:26

TeenToTwenties · 05/07/2025 17:28

I think that is encouraging trouble at a pride event. Unnecessarily provocative.

And the ones wearing shirts saying ‘the only good terf is a dead terf’ isnt?!

Waitwhat23 · 06/07/2025 10:27

Oh dear ladies, have we not been clapping enough? Clap, dammit!

Saw the name Julia Serano mentioned and thought 'where have I seen that name before?' and remembered, from this -

arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness
happydappy2 · 06/07/2025 10:31

Does anyone know if he has been released yet? Or charged with anything?

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TheCatsTongue · 06/07/2025 10:31

Julia Serano was mentioned as evidence that there has been research which says that Blanchard is wrong.

The "research" even stated in its aims that it wants to combat Mumsnet. How can you take any research seriously if the aim is to combat comments on a web forum?

Blanchard's research is perfectly plausible, the question is why are people so desperate to dismiss it?

Datun · 06/07/2025 10:35

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 00:25

Yes which has been debunked

Tell that to the five or six thousand posts on this very site from women who are married to the exact men described by Ray Blanchard.

AGP has not been debunked.

And Julia Serrano certainly isn't credible as a debunker of the notion that men get off on fetishising women's oppression.

While I never really believed the cliche about women being good for only one thing, I found that that sentiment kept creeping into my fantasies. I would imagine myself being sold into sex slavery and having strange men take advantage of me.

It's called forced feminisation and it's not really about sex. It is about turning the humiliation you feel into pleasure, transforming the loss of male privilege into the best fuck ever.

(As an aside the logic vacuum continues, with his best fuck ever, not really being about sex 🙄)

TheCatsTongue · 06/07/2025 10:37

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 00:51

Right but because some agree and some disagree doesn't mean either is right. Give it more time and it will be more understood that certain people are just a certain way and should be free to be so just like gay and lesbian people. It's all an expression of personality

The language is getting more and more fluffy.

OK, it's an expression of personality. Fine. But why do you take issue that this expression is formed from a fetish/sexual attraction misdirect?

Pride has men walking around in bondage that is an expression of a fetish, so why can't you accept this is too?

Blanchard was clear that there are two types: heterosexual MtF and homosexual MtF. The T in LGBT has been overtaken with the heterosexual MtFs.

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 06/07/2025 10:41

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/07/2025 09:59

Military equipment that would've been used to kill children.

OR help towards saving your life in the event that Britain went to war.

What a weird way to look at it…

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 10:41

HunnyPot · 05/07/2025 17:50

This person scored an own goal and just demonstrated why we need events like pride.

Just like the anti-women trans activist protesters at Let Women Speak prove why we need events like Let Women Speak.

Datun · 06/07/2025 10:49

It is as ever, the lack of balance, which is pissing people off. And the rank sexism that supports it.

Men saying that they want to be sexually humiliated because that's what women are for, that women who disagree with men in their spaces should be decapitated, punched, raped and have their children taken away and more suck my girl dicks then you can shake a fucking shake at.

But one random guy calling it a mental illness gets arrested??

We've seen it, over, and over. Women attacked, punched, deprived of rights, threatened and fired, but woe betide them if they put a suffragette ribbon in a tree or say the word castration.

The double standards could not be clearer.