Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

[DiamondThrone]

No. Neither have I.

Because of the strength power and size imbalance, there is a difference when waking up with strangers on a hospital ward.

Any man who chooses to do so could overpower me, and I would not be able to prevent this, I just rely on him not choosing to do so. Another woman might not be able to hurt me, I might be stronger than her. Women are less likely to use violence for this reason.

But that's your thoughts on the matter. Not mine. Someone thinks I'm lying because I dont view people/situations the exact same way as her.

Because I wonder if you would forgo any safeguarding systems at all for them.

If your female friend had been abused by a man and wanted a female doctor to do a medical exam, would you defend that Dr Upton (for example) did it? Where is your line? For your female friends?

Physical power imbalance and greater tendency of males to use their power on women is reality borne out by crime stats, it’s not my thoughts.

Happy to accept this doesn’t bother you when interacting with strangers when you are in a vulnerable state, but I don’t agree that your risk assessment is correct.

No I would hope if she wished a female doctor she would get one. Very simple.

Leave the AI / Pigeon / Troll alone

it is not discussing in any faith let alone good faith.

Does anybody have any recent pictures of the Block 9 "artwork" ?

In terms of physical safety and my own vulnerability waking up in a hospital, yes. It's a no brainer.

Thank you. I'm happy with my method of risk assessment.

Yes thank you 😊

Well we agree. 👍

So if your (same) friend was in prison. Would you not expect her to be assured that she wouldn't be sharing a cell with a man?

Firstly it would depend what she was in prison for. Secondly I would hope that she wouldn't be sharing with a man. I dont have any idea how the system works but if she found herself with a man I would try and help her or the man get moved to a different cell, if possible.

However, the point is that public policy has to be made for all, based on a realistic assessment of the risk that men pose to women.

So while you are happy to take that risk personally, and don’t perceive men to be more dangerous to you than women, the law etc has to be based on real crime statistics, where it’s clear than men present an overwhelmingly higher risk to women than women do to other women. Trans women retain the same offending patterns as men, including things like voyeurism, and for that reason any risk assessment should be made on that basis.

This doesn’t even take into account those women who have experienced male violence and would find the presence of a male person in the next bed very traumatising.

Rules have to take everyone into account.

I didnt say I deemed men safer than women. I said that's not the main factor to me when deciding how safe someone is to me.

Like you say it will be based on statistics so it's up to the people with access to all the correct information to make up the laws.

Why would it depend on her crime???

Sentencing does NOT include additional punishment in the form of being made to share a cell with a man. That is not how our justice system works. Should threat of sexual violence be part of women’s punishment? I doubt that is legal under international law.

I’m very happy to see the Woman flag flying during Rod Stewart’s set! Being swung back and forth with an enthusiasm that suggests they’ve been safe.

Just watching a bit of Rod Stewart. Saw a sign I thought said 'Trans for Rod'. Then the camera zoomed in and it said 'Nans for Rod'

I so miss the laugh reaction. Brilliant!

I meant if she had for example murdered my mother in cold blood- no I wouldnt give a toss about her cell mates.

Do you understand the difference between people you know and people you don’t know?

I agree that we can make judgements about people that we know personally that take other things into account about who to trust.

But when dealing with strangers, the risk assessment only falls one way. We have no other knowledge of the person than their sex. It doesn’t mean that most men are not decent human beings. But for those who are not, you can’t defend yourself if they choose to do you harm. And men are way more likely to use their physical strength against another person. And indulge in voyeurism, indecent exposure and other paraphilias.

Yes

Well that's your thoughts. I genuinely don't feel scared or nervous or anxious around men I dont know simply because they are men. It's how they act, their eyes, what they say, their body language, the vibe/6th sense I get from them.

Well what we're all doing here is making sure that this doesn't happen to your (hypothetical) friend. Whatever she's locked up for.

We're moving the man to a different cell.

To a different prison, so not in any woman's cell.

You've either been incredibly lucky, or you're incredibly naive. Or just stirring.