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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

anyone see Boy George on Lorraine Kelly?

141 replies

womanbornn · 26/06/2025 09:45

a few years back, George was asking people on Twitter to leave their pronouns at the door, sounding very GC and sensible, from the standpoint of a nonconformist male in the 80’s who liked to wear makeup and dresses whilst happy to be a man and aware he’s not a woman.

Nowadays he’s going on breakfast tv mocking JK Rowling, who only replied to his bloody tweet in self defence. George started the conversation with her.

She didn’t say anything in response that wasn’t factual or on point.

And Lorraine bloody Kelly in mock bewilderment, asking “why does it always end up about toilets”
Do some bloody reading Lorraine. Open your brain. Stop pretending that you don’t understand. (in the style of Jeremy bloody Vine)

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SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 17:11

JanesLittleGirl · 26/06/2025 17:00

It can be confusing though. If you go 180 degrees around a roundabout then you're are going straight on. If you go 360 degrees around a roundabout then you're going back where you came from.

Er, are you sure ?

KathyMalloryKicksAss · 26/06/2025 17:12

Lorraine Kelly gives me the utter rage. She’s the worst kind of simpering handmaiden and completely fake with her
“It’s so nice to have you here. It reaaally is” to everyone she interviews.

Yet another betrayer of women. Wouldn’t be surprised if she has Nicola Sturgeon on speed dial.

JazzyBBBG · 26/06/2025 17:22

I've just seen it on Twitter. She's so full of shit. Still at least she turned up for work eh.

Username65 · 26/06/2025 17:36

Alucard55 · 26/06/2025 16:26

LK is appalling on this. The "oh I don't agree why can't we all be kind stuff" is embarrassing. It would be great to see Helen Joyce or Maya Forstater on LK but that won't happen anytime soon.

She had Kathleen Stock on a couple of years ago, after she had been forced out of her job and threatened with violence. Told her she hadn’t really been cancelled because she was on the LK show, then the minute the show was over tweeted - “For the avoidance of doubt, I believe trans women are women.”
Had the Graaf husband and wife on after the Supreme Court ruling - I think the only reference she has made to it, agreed with them that it was just awful. (They are Mermaids patrons BTW).
I also don’t believe the “oh it’s a wee shame how we can’t all be nice to each other” act, she didn’t make it in a tough business like that by being nice.

JanesLittleGirl · 26/06/2025 17:44

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 17:11

Er, are you sure ?

Sorry, I was messing with you all. A roundabout is a full circle so 360 degrees. Half way round is 180 degrees and if you go half way round then you leave opposite to where you joined. All the way round is 360 degrees and if you go all the way round then you leave where you joined.

The reason that this seems to make sense is because it ignores the 90 degree left turn that you make on joining the roundabout and the 90 degree left turn that you make on leaving the roundabout.

Alucard55 · 26/06/2025 17:44

Username65 · 26/06/2025 17:36

She had Kathleen Stock on a couple of years ago, after she had been forced out of her job and threatened with violence. Told her she hadn’t really been cancelled because she was on the LK show, then the minute the show was over tweeted - “For the avoidance of doubt, I believe trans women are women.”
Had the Graaf husband and wife on after the Supreme Court ruling - I think the only reference she has made to it, agreed with them that it was just awful. (They are Mermaids patrons BTW).
I also don’t believe the “oh it’s a wee shame how we can’t all be nice to each other” act, she didn’t make it in a tough business like that by being nice.

I watched the KS interview recently and thought KS as always was brilliant but LK doing the "oh I don't agree but can't we all just talk about it" stuff was ridiculous. That's exactly what KS was trying to do and in a kind and moderate manner. I wish someone would push her on this and ask specifically what she doesn't agree with.

Also, saw the Graff interview where she "doesn't agree with the ruling".

I'm perplexed how seemingly intelligent people cannot comprehend the arguments that women are making. Perhaps they don't want to hear.

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 18:00

JanesLittleGirl · 26/06/2025 17:44

Sorry, I was messing with you all. A roundabout is a full circle so 360 degrees. Half way round is 180 degrees and if you go half way round then you leave opposite to where you joined. All the way round is 360 degrees and if you go all the way round then you leave where you joined.

The reason that this seems to make sense is because it ignores the 90 degree left turn that you make on joining the roundabout and the 90 degree left turn that you make on leaving the roundabout.

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 26/06/2025 18:02

KathyMalloryKicksAss · 26/06/2025 17:12

Lorraine Kelly gives me the utter rage. She’s the worst kind of simpering handmaiden and completely fake with her
“It’s so nice to have you here. It reaaally is” to everyone she interviews.

Yet another betrayer of women. Wouldn’t be surprised if she has Nicola Sturgeon on speed dial.

"aww you look great" used to be one her stock phrases too, said to every single guest back when I watched Lorraine in my student days.

The faux upbeat utter insincerity of the woman has always made my teeth itch, possibly more than anyone else on telly and the fact that she's more than happy to fling her fellow women under the bus does not surprise me at all.

Merrymouse · 26/06/2025 18:25

At the point that Boy George suggests that surgery is an appropriate treatment for gender non conforming children, you have to stop expecting any of it to make sense.

MarieDeGournay · 26/06/2025 18:28

Lorraine Kelly interviewed Kathleen Stock???
There aren't enough question marks in the universe to express my disbelief.
How in the name of all that's holy did that happen?
Are they not like matter and anti-matter? How come meeting didn't cause instant annihilation?

KathyMalloryKicksAss · 26/06/2025 18:35

Also, it seems to me as though ITV are now identifying as the BBC these days. The somber faces when the SC ruling was made and sad face sympathy shown when they were interviewing man after man complaining about the terrible rules that was stopping them from invading female spaces.

DeanElderberry · 26/06/2025 19:29

Toseland · 26/06/2025 16:29

He says about "trans kids" - "a little girl is not acting like a little girl should" what should little girls act like?! Is she not conforming to old fashioned stereotypes?! He's in favour of medication and surgery for all those kids who don't conform. It's so fucked up.

Drugging, mutilation, sterility, brittle bones and lifelong ill-health as the punishment for childhood naughtiness.

Seems extreme.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 26/06/2025 20:00

Did no one else see Vanessa today? With Jenny Murray saying women are women? Worth a watch

Alucard55 · 26/06/2025 21:16

MarieDeGournay · 26/06/2025 18:28

Lorraine Kelly interviewed Kathleen Stock???
There aren't enough question marks in the universe to express my disbelief.
How in the name of all that's holy did that happen?
Are they not like matter and anti-matter? How come meeting didn't cause instant annihilation?

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Alucard55 · 26/06/2025 21:17

Does anyone know if LK has commented on single sex spaces and whether she believes women have a right to them? I'm not on Twitter but could someone ask her?

NameChangedOfc · 26/06/2025 21:19

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 16:49

How is that going to help ? The great unwashed can't fathom regular degrees.

Remember most people think acute angles look nice.

I miss the laughing reaction 😂

porridgecake · 26/06/2025 22:10

Honestly, I have reached the point where I have to turn the TV off the moment I hear LK's voice.

BlackForestCake · 26/06/2025 22:45

Despite this dreadful take from George (and notwithstanding his previous crimes) he does have more experience of gender non conformity than most people. I'd like to hear him think this stuff through at length, maybe opposite his old pal Marilyn who is a big JKR fan. Sadly neither of them seem to be the most stable of personalities.

BertieBottsEveryFlavourBeans · 26/06/2025 22:53

Beowulfa · 26/06/2025 10:25

Nobody can "acquire" a new sex. It's not like the Argos catalogue.

🤣 posts like this are why we need the laugh reaction back!

Pleasantsort · 26/06/2025 22:53

Oh ffs, I missed thankfully. Is she desperate for their approval on what ? Or desperate for their £££$$$!!!🤣 Sounds like a load of 🤬🤣

BundleBoogie · 26/06/2025 23:34

womanbornn · 26/06/2025 10:30

I know, it’s ridiculous. Acquiring a sex? How does that work then! LOL.

I bought mine in the middle of Lidl.

Enough4me · 26/06/2025 23:40

BundleBoogie · 26/06/2025 23:34

I bought mine in the middle of Lidl.

Oh no, I missed that Lidl middle aisle sex deal again!
I promised my cousin's uncle's brother, who is brave and stunning, I'd pick a woman sex for him to pop on.
Did you get the unicorn shiny moobs one or the barbie pink stiletto one?

BundleBoogie · 26/06/2025 23:52

Enough4me · 26/06/2025 23:40

Oh no, I missed that Lidl middle aisle sex deal again!
I promised my cousin's uncle's brother, who is brave and stunning, I'd pick a woman sex for him to pop on.
Did you get the unicorn shiny moobs one or the barbie pink stiletto one?

I found the camo light version 😉 - last one in my rather small size. I’m delighted with it.

Your brave and stunning relative must be gutted - he’s going to have to sit it out until their next promotion. I could drop you a message next time I see it coming soon in the magazine?

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 26/06/2025 23:59

BundleBoogie · 26/06/2025 23:34

I bought mine in the middle of Lidl.

Gutted! My local Lidl was all out of stock so I just got a massive inflatable unicorn instead, which is nice but not the same 😥.

Hermiaxx · 27/06/2025 09:30

BundleBoogie · 26/06/2025 23:34

I bought mine in the middle of Lidl.

🤣

😁!