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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

anyone see Boy George on Lorraine Kelly?

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womanbornn · 26/06/2025 09:45

a few years back, George was asking people on Twitter to leave their pronouns at the door, sounding very GC and sensible, from the standpoint of a nonconformist male in the 80’s who liked to wear makeup and dresses whilst happy to be a man and aware he’s not a woman.

Nowadays he’s going on breakfast tv mocking JK Rowling, who only replied to his bloody tweet in self defence. George started the conversation with her.

She didn’t say anything in response that wasn’t factual or on point.

And Lorraine bloody Kelly in mock bewilderment, asking “why does it always end up about toilets”
Do some bloody reading Lorraine. Open your brain. Stop pretending that you don’t understand. (in the style of Jeremy bloody Vine)

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zanahoria · 26/06/2025 12:43

Stephen Fry

Boy George

Ben Maguire MP

H from Steps

Pedro Pascal

Billy Bragg

That is six blokes who have come out and told JKR what a terrible person she is just in the last week.

None have made a coherent argument against points she made in her essay.

None of them have shown any signs that they have even bothered to read it.

They just all portray her as a crazy woman on twitter but none of them would last a minute if they debated the issues with her instead of just chucking mud and telling themselves how kind they are

The hypocrisy is disgusting

WinterTrees · 26/06/2025 12:54

I wasn't going to seek out the clip as watching Lorraine Kelly gives me the same feeling as running my fingernails down a chalkboard, but I've just seen it on Instagram.

So many questions.

What has BG done to himself? He looks like he'd come straight from the dentist's chair and his mouth was still numb. Why was he slurring and dribbling slightly?

Why does he not know that JKR is an author not a film director?

Why does Lorraine persist with the hand-wringing, faux-bewildered 'I just wish we could all talk nicely' and 'be fair' act while mocking and laughing at JKR and agreeing with BG - the man convicted of kidnap and assault - saying she's a horrible person. Why does no one at ITV have a word with her about self-awareness? Why is she given such a massive platform when she has negative amounts of journalistic integrity?

And a note to BG - men's toilets might be horrible stinky places, because men piss everywhere and don't clean up after themselves, but women's toilets tend to be a lot nicer. Which is one reason, amongst many more weighty ones, why we'd like men to stay the fuck out of them.

augustusglupe · 26/06/2025 12:57

I laughed abit at Lorraine sitting there going Yeeesss, yeesssss, oh yeeeesss.
Christ, she’s hopeless.

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 12:58

BeeSouriante · 26/06/2025 10:20

I mean, it's 'gender critical' activists who made it about toilets, the delightful people at Sex Matters are trying to work out how to make it an illegal offence to use the toilet of your acquired sex and JK Rowling has been telling people to photograph people they think may be trans in the toilet (which would be an offence) and post them up on Elon Musk's far right site. All totally normal behaviour.

No, mate. The transwoman in a frock and cheap wig who masturbated in front of me in the ladies thirty odd years ago made it 'about toilets'. I didn't bring it up, he bloody well did.

Men need to stay out of women's spaces.

There is no such thing as 'acquired sex', don't be ridiculous.

Annoyedone · 26/06/2025 13:03

womanbornn · 26/06/2025 10:30

I know, it’s ridiculous. Acquiring a sex? How does that work then! LOL.

I got mine on Amazon last prime day 😂😂😂😂😂

Absentmindedsmile · 26/06/2025 13:05

It’s past the time that Lorraine Kelly should have been put out to pasture. Along with Jeremy Vine, and a few others. Way past their sell by date, and it’s not an age thing.

Boiledbeetle · 26/06/2025 13:07

HappyNewTaxYear · 26/06/2025 11:24

How did you acquire yours?

I think it's varied through the ages.

Back in cave man times they just bonked them on the head and dragged it back to the cave.

When the cowboys roamed the plains they rounded them up like cattle.

These days you just pick one up at Tesco.

anyone see Boy George on Lorraine Kelly?
anyone see Boy George on Lorraine Kelly?
anyone see Boy George on Lorraine Kelly?
NewsdeskJC · 26/06/2025 13:08

caramac04 · 26/06/2025 10:33

Boy George (a male title) is an attention seeking, violent and nasty criminal.
Lorraine has been pretty successful as a woman who twitters and fawns.

Nails it

DialSquare · 26/06/2025 13:20

This Boy George?

anyone see Boy George on Lorraine Kelly?
womanbornn · 26/06/2025 13:22

DialSquare · 26/06/2025 13:20

This Boy George?

yep, the very same. I wonder what caused his 360 degree turn on things? Something clearly did.

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Absentmindedsmile · 26/06/2025 13:23

womanbornn · 26/06/2025 13:22

yep, the very same. I wonder what caused his 360 degree turn on things? Something clearly did.

His income stream probably. He’d have been cancelled if he carried on speaking sense. Not wealthy or popular enough to risk it.

DifferentChoicesTooLate · 26/06/2025 13:25

I find it fascinating that as women we are made to be the criminals for saying ‘actually I want to pee or poop or change my sanpro in a space where I know there are just women’.

The phrase ‘why are GC obsessed with toilets’ or as LK says ‘why is all about toilets’ is basically minimising and dismissing what women want.

I am not obsessed with others genitals, but I do care about my and my fellow women and girls felt and real safety.

Lorraine - just because you don’t mind sharing a toilet with a trans woman you don’t get to abuse your privilege as a wealthy, well connected, celebrity to dictate what other women find uncomfortable and at times scary.

womanbornn · 26/06/2025 13:25

looks like he’s blocked her now on X. LOL. Don’t go in the kitchen if you can’t stand the heat.

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DifferentChoicesTooLate · 26/06/2025 13:26

Also totally off topic but I am really really really FED UP of ‘celebrities’ suddenly discovering that they are also authors 😡

lcakethereforeIam · 26/06/2025 13:28

Does anyone reckon Geezer George would even have been on Lorraine's show if he hadn't had this spat with JKR?

Iguanothankyoudon · 26/06/2025 13:36

It’s so clear now that men like George and Stephen are using JKR for headlines to try and stay relevant.

I had a shifty at BG insta and he’s got (terrible) new music out, clearly aimed at a particular audience.

Lorraine is just not very deep of thought I don’t think.

ToHellIGo · 26/06/2025 13:40

Lorraine is terrible. I saw her interview the woman whose husband and son died on that Oceangate submersible. Lorraine was fucking clueless, no tact, no empathy, nothing. How the fuck she has kept a presenting job I’ll never know.

As for Boy George, he’s clearly trying to stay relevant and is using JK to do so. He’s a violent nasty man.

MarieDeGournay · 26/06/2025 13:40

Lorraine - just because you don’t mind sharing a toilet with a trans woman you don’t get to abuse your privilege as a wealthy, well connected, celebrity to dictate what other women find uncomfortable and at times scary.

I agree DifferentChoicesTooLate - if women like LK are comfortable sharing a toilet with a man, let them use the men's toilet, or the unisex one, and leave the women-only toilet for women who want it to be women only!
Nobody is forcing them NOT to share a toilet with transwomen...

WinterTrees · 26/06/2025 13:48

I wonder what caused his 360 degree turn on things? Something clearly did.

He talks about his friends with trans kids and LK mentions her trans friends (I think she and Izzard get together for girly giggles?) Ordinary women with their boring trauma should shut up so the celeb clique don't get sad.

zanahoria · 26/06/2025 13:51

"What I love about you over the years is you've always stood up for people who sometimes don't have a voice for themselves. As we know, people in the trans-community, it's been very tough for them. And you've actually said, no, this isn't fair. You've been good like that, and you've always been good like that,"

Did the bloke he locked in his flat and hit with a chain have a voice for himself?

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 26/06/2025 13:56

BeeSouriante · 26/06/2025 10:20

I mean, it's 'gender critical' activists who made it about toilets, the delightful people at Sex Matters are trying to work out how to make it an illegal offence to use the toilet of your acquired sex and JK Rowling has been telling people to photograph people they think may be trans in the toilet (which would be an offence) and post them up on Elon Musk's far right site. All totally normal behaviour.

I quite fancy acquiring a new sex. Do the do them in Tesco? I've got some clubcard points I could use up.

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 14:00

womanbornn · 26/06/2025 13:22

yep, the very same. I wonder what caused his 360 degree turn on things? Something clearly did.

You mean 180 surely ? For the rest of us it's a 360.

DialSquare · 26/06/2025 14:02

A conversation between Dennis Noel Kavanagh and JKR about it.

anyone see Boy George on Lorraine Kelly?
FlirtsWithRhinos · 26/06/2025 14:03

BeeSouriante · 26/06/2025 10:20

I mean, it's 'gender critical' activists who made it about toilets, the delightful people at Sex Matters are trying to work out how to make it an illegal offence to use the toilet of your acquired sex and JK Rowling has been telling people to photograph people they think may be trans in the toilet (which would be an offence) and post them up on Elon Musk's far right site. All totally normal behaviour.

By that argument, the only problem with theft is the people who complain about having their possessions taken.

Female people exist and there are material consequences to being femaje bodied. Every single human in the world, yes even you, owes their literal life to a female person. Yet you are only interested in supporting trans people if it involves taking rights and protections away from female people.

Why do you hate female people so much?

womanbornn · 26/06/2025 14:06

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 14:00

You mean 180 surely ? For the rest of us it's a 360.

yep, that’s what I meant, 180

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