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BBC presenter corrects pregnant people to pregnant women

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/06/2025 08:41

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

and with a splendid eye roll to boot 😁

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

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WarriorN · 23/06/2025 11:30

She now has a cool 80k likes…

AwardGiselePelicotTheNobelPeacePrize · 23/06/2025 11:51

Presumably people who are happy to say pregnant people are also happy to say people's lives matter, because otherwise they would look like hypocrites

NotBadConsidering · 23/06/2025 11:53

The term “pregnant people” isn’t about being nice and inclusive to trans identifying females. It’s about making sure the words woman and women doesn’t exclude trans identifying men. If you say “pregnant women” that excludes them, because it points out women doing something these men can’t: be pregnant.

As always, it’s all about the men.

Partridgewell · 23/06/2025 12:40

PhantomOTheParadise · 23/06/2025 11:16

But they're still women. Everyone knows only women can get pregnant; to pretend otherwise is both stupid and pointless.

I always wonder why transmen want to get pregnant, and how calling them women can bring on dysphoria and should not be done, but carrying an actual baby and giving birth will not, and is seemingly fine.

This is exactly what I think. If their dysphoria is not triggered by doing literally the most woman thing you can do, how can an accurate word hurt so badly!? Surely it's hard to forget you have a vulva when you're pushing a baby out of it!

IButtleSir · 23/06/2025 12:56

SabrinaThwaite · 23/06/2025 09:07

Peter Lloyd has written a book, Stand By Your Manhood.

The Amazon reviews are interesting. One reviewer describes it as containing rather a lot of ‘anti-feminist vitriol’.

It seems he feels that feminism has dealt men a bad hand and they need to rise up and smash the matriarchy. Hence his X handle ‘Suffragent’.

Once again, I feel the need for a 🤮 reaction emoji.

IButtleSir · 23/06/2025 13:02

NotBadConsidering · 23/06/2025 11:53

The term “pregnant people” isn’t about being nice and inclusive to trans identifying females. It’s about making sure the words woman and women doesn’t exclude trans identifying men. If you say “pregnant women” that excludes them, because it points out women doing something these men can’t: be pregnant.

As always, it’s all about the men.

Exactly- it's all about attempting to create a gulf between the concept of pregnancy and the concept of womanhood. Some people can get pregnant, some people are women, but the Venn diagram is not a circle within a circle, no-siree!

(That last sentence is sarcastic, before anyone accuses me of not understanding pregnancy, womanhood or Venn diagrams.)

MassiveWordSalad · 23/06/2025 13:09

“Suffragent” and “Stand by your Manhood” sound like satire 🤣

Tapoopoo · 23/06/2025 13:21

Remember to send the BBC a positive comment about her doing this!

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/comments

peanutbuttertoasty · 23/06/2025 13:23

Delicious!

Pawse · 23/06/2025 13:41

She now has 109k followers. Anyone know how many she had before the pregnant woman comment?

WarriorN · 23/06/2025 14:35

Dunno but JK wished her well and hoped she’d had no trouble!

Firenzo · 23/06/2025 14:42

Chat GPT suggestions, none of which quite hit the rage inducing- ness of ‘pregnant people’ - only a loud ‘oh fuck off!’ really does it.

Bloke-Logic Analogies for “Pregnant People”

  1. Calling pregnant women ‘pregnant people’ is like calling footballers ‘goal-event participants.’
  2. It’s like referring to rugby players as ‘high-impact body units.’
  3. Like saying ‘pint-consuming mammals’ instead of ‘blokes at the pub.’
  4. It’s like renaming Sunday League lads ‘recreational pitch users.’
  5. Calling a darts team ‘projectile-orientated individuals.’
  6. Like referring to dads as ‘child-cohabitating contributors.’
  7. Like calling a bloke in his garage ‘a tool-manipulating unit.’
  8. It’s the verbal equivalent of calling Top Gear fans ‘motor appreciation organisms.’
  9. Like saying ‘DIY enthusiasts’ are ‘home improvement humanoids.’
  10. Like replacing ‘lad culture’ with ‘cis-male bonding dynamics.’
  11. Calling F1 drivers ‘high-speed steering personnel.’
  12. Referring to gym-goers as ‘muscle-engagement individuals.’
  13. Calling a striker ‘goal-adjacent person.’
  14. Like calling your best mate ‘designated emotional interaction module.’
  15. Like calling builders ‘structural assembly bipeds.’
WandaSiri · 23/06/2025 15:52

WhatterySquash · 23/06/2025 11:28

Trans men do most definitely lack power. They are not pandered to and platformed to anything like the extent that TW are. Some accounts from detransitioners describe how they are exploited for sex by straight TW and other straight men (who know exactly what sex they prefer). As a TW you’ve been able to gain access to females in prisons, hospital wards, changing rooms etc, allowing predatory men to carry out attacks, flashing and other crimes, as well as being given women’s sports to exploit and gain from. But the only loophole where being a TM could give you an advantage, sexist primogeniture rules, has been closed PDQ.

However, even though “pregnant people” arises out of the belief that TM are men and that therefore men can be pregnant, it also serves to confuse, as people think of TW as men and that therefore it means TW (actual men) can be pregnant. It encourages the confusion in the NHS where actual males are treated as if they could be pregnant and it encourages the fetishization of female bodily processes by males, so you end up with males in breastfeeding groups and similar which destroys them for many women.

it is also downright rude and insulting to women. Only women, actual women, get pregnant. The fear of saying the word “woman” because a small group of women who choose to deny their womanhood might be offended, not giving a shit that huge numbers of women who are proud of their womanhood might be offended, is discriminatory. But more to the point it pisses women (and quite a few men) right off and when someone stands up to it publicly they’ll get a lot of support.

If trans men don’t like it, maybe they could lump it, since saying “pregnany woman” is in fact a reflection of reality? If they can’t face reality that’s their business but leave everyone else out of it. And BTW if you think you are “living as a man” while popping out babies you may have got the wrong end of the stick.

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Top posting. Thanks.

IDareSay · 23/06/2025 16:21

Pawse · 23/06/2025 13:41

She now has 109k followers. Anyone know how many she had before the pregnant woman comment?

The Times article says she has gained around 50,000 followers Grin

IFoundYouShoppingInEuropaOnWardourStreet · 23/06/2025 16:26

Interestingly this story has now started popping up on my SM. I hope this doesn't bring the TRAs out of the woodwork who this story may have initially passed by. But comments are 100% in favour so far. Well done Martine, join the ranks of a very worthy bunch of fierce women!

WarriorN · 23/06/2025 16:27

Webberly has wobbled and attempted a rebuke. Ratios are glorious

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2025 16:31

Peter Lloyd has written a book, Stand By Your Manhood.

I thought a 'manhood' was a penis? How can you stand 'by' it? Unless its been removed, I suppose.

DiamondThrone · 23/06/2025 16:38

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2025 16:31

Peter Lloyd has written a book, Stand By Your Manhood.

I thought a 'manhood' was a penis? How can you stand 'by' it? Unless its been removed, I suppose.

It's a pun on the song "Stand By Your Man", I assume

DefineHappy · 23/06/2025 17:06

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2025 16:31

Peter Lloyd has written a book, Stand By Your Manhood.

I thought a 'manhood' was a penis? How can you stand 'by' it? Unless its been removed, I suppose.

There was that weird song a long time ago called something like “detachable penis”… I think that is what it must be referring to 😎🤣

DefineHappy · 23/06/2025 17:07

WarriorN · 23/06/2025 16:27

Webberly has wobbled and attempted a rebuke. Ratios are glorious

Any chance of screenshots, please?

MelodyMalone · 23/06/2025 17:20

Good to see BBC are backing her. The Times article was interesting and does seem to mark a shift.

ItsCoolForCats · 23/06/2025 17:42

MelodyMalone · 23/06/2025 17:20

Good to see BBC are backing her. The Times article was interesting and does seem to mark a shift.

It feels like we are having lots of watershed moments. 2025 is turning out to be quite the year.

fromorbit · 23/06/2025 18:01

Another mass peaking moment, but lets step back and consider how insane the situation is.

Jill Foster

Let’s be clear, I think MartineBBC
is an absolute star and her eye roll spoke for all of us.
But it’s 2025 and every newspaper from the Times to the Mail and Evening Standard are carrying a story on the fact she said women can get pregnant.

What a time to be alive.

A few years ago she would have lost her job, other people have done.

Chersfrozenface · 23/06/2025 18:08

PhantomOTheParadise · 23/06/2025 11:16

But they're still women. Everyone knows only women can get pregnant; to pretend otherwise is both stupid and pointless.

I always wonder why transmen want to get pregnant, and how calling them women can bring on dysphoria and should not be done, but carrying an actual baby and giving birth will not, and is seemingly fine.

Usually this is covered by "sex is complicated / a spectrum" and "men can get pregnant".

See the pregnant man emoji🫃

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