BBC presenter corrects pregnant people to pregnant women

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https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

and with a splendid eye roll to boot 😁

'A BBC source said: “This is very good news. Bosses are intensely relaxed, it seems – perhaps even pleased with what she did. It’s down to the new chairman, in my opinion.”'

From the Telegraph article upthread.

Bring it.

I just hope the BBC don’t play the long game, and ease her out further down the line.

She's (with other kick ass women) already taken the BBC to court once, and won. I doubt the BBC will risk it again, especially with JKR's money on her side!

Fascinating how many people on that thread saying "don't they realise women are people?" thus revealing that they do in fact know that people who are pregnant are.....women. This comment doesn't make sense otherwise.

Proof No 54637236 of how they don't actually believe what they try so hard to believe.

When they were interviewing poor marginalised men about the SC ruling on the radio, there was some TIM on talking in the most pathetic, whiny 'what about meeeeee' voice saying he needed treatment for cancer, can't go on the ward, yadda, yadda, yadda, urology which made me wonder if it was her prostate she was troubled with 🙃

Oh ffs. Wait till you have actual cancer and see how much you care about pronouns then.

Metaphorical prodding, there’s not a bargepole long enough in the real world.

😂😂😂😂

You don’t know how much I am resisting temptation to make the obvious joke about this particular person. 📸

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I guess the guidance is fair enough, and the BBC do need to report a wide variety of views and opinions. I just hope it wasn’t posted in light of this situation and was due to be published anyway. If it wasn’t due, it’s a passive aggressive , sneaky, telling off

My carpet fitters were talking about Martine yesterday. Laughing about the fact she'd had to use pregnant people and then correcting to women. One of them saying 'these old higher ups have got a bit above themselves' and then 'do they know we exist'.

They'll have been working on the new guidelines for months, with all sorts of input from different departments at the BBC. The Beeb does not move quickly!

"The new editorial guidelines, updated roughly every five years, have been embraced by BBC director-general Tim Davie."

And that makes them more interesting. Times are clearly changing.

I did and got really quite fed up with seeing so many posters in changing cubicles trying make sure “people who can get pregnant” weren’t actually pregnant for treatments, whilst attempting not to offend anyone and being as widely inclusive as possible. With a ton of flags and virtue signalling decor for good measure. I understood why it was important to make sure people who were confused about sex and gender didn’t get confused about this but it did grate rather.

I was just a woman and I had to get on with it.

warriorN sorry you’ve done the cancer thing, it’s pretty cr::p. It does my head in that not only do we have to deal with unimaginably gruelling and painful and stressful treatment while people tell us to be strong and wear pink and run bloody marathons, but you’ve had to deal with it while everyone is falling over themselves to incorporate what must be a teeny teeny percentage of the population. The medics work hard enough as it is, and money could be much better spent on actual medicine that actually cures people not panders to their vanity. I wasn’t transphobic At all but seeing all those flags and stuff while having treatment that made me feel sick, has weirdly linked to my brain and now I actually feel sick when I see a flag!( or eat ginger!)
as for just being a woman, not only do we put up with a LOT more pain than those men and men in frocks, but we should be revered - we create actual life. Not a bad trick .
here’s to getting and feeling better as soon as xxx

I’m absolutely fine now, thank you. Apologies for the rant.

Think we both ranted! And bloody deserve to too.😀 glad you’re fine, not an easy thing to do.

I tried looking up the numbers. None are available but extrapolating from other countries, we are probably talking low hundreds of pregnant people who don't ID as women.

In other words, about 0.02 % of UK births

I find this mangling of words in maternity policy profoundly offensive. While I can appreciate that it may have been done with “good intentions” in practice it’s actually alienating & de-humanising the vast majority of women. I completely support an adult’s choice to identify out of being a woman - but at the point where they are doing the ultimate act of womanhood - making a human - they need to just accept that there are certain words that go with that. If they’ve got a problem with that biological function then choose not to do it!!

How about this - a proposition someone cleverer than me made:

If you are going to choose to modify your body so much that it makes people around you uncomfortable, either by having devil horns implanted in your forehead, or by being a woman but taking so much testosterone that you look enough like a man that you intimidate other women, respectfully, that is a you problem. You need to deal with the consequences of your choice.

And one consequence, if you are a transman, will (or should) be that the onus is on you to be aware that you are biologically a woman and therefore you are included when signs say “women.”

Interestingly, once upon a time, one of the criteria for being eligible for “sex reassignment” surgery was that you had to acknowledge that you knew that it would not actually change your sex. And that the world would not actually treat you as the opposite sex. People who couldn’t acknowledge that were not considered good candidates for the surgery, because they were seen as delusional.

Good!!! Women get pregnant, men don't. When is this stupidness going to stop

Wow, she changed a term to make sure trans men were excluded, what a shero, how very brave of her, as a member of the media, to engage in the media moral panic 🙄

Trans men are still biological women though, especially if they get pregnant. Men do not get pregnant!

How's your Reddit threads going?

Trans men are women. So they are included.