Why is this subforum so intent on removing voices that dont' agree?

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Like I've had three posts removed

I remain dubious. You might as well make one out of parma violets.

Parma violets are disgusting. I’ve had a lavender Earl Grey latte type thingy which was very pleasant though.

Parma violets are ds' favourite Halloween sweet. He used to get all the PV from his friends who got some in their bags, he didn't even have to swap some of his sweets for them. Maybe we have "likes floral flavours" genes in the family.

I had a lovely lavender creme brûlée once. Still think about it now, and it was easily 20 years ago. But it's a difficult thing to get right - a hint can be great, but a shade too much and it's Granny's Knicker Drawer territory.

I like a spritz but they've got to be bitter or dry, preferably both. But I'd prefer something like a Negroni.

And their opinions can be challenged. But OP just did a huge plop and fucked off to Reddit.

The fact that some women are evil is a distraction and doesn’t negate the risk that men as a group pose to women as a group.

https://www.bakersbrigade.com/earl-grey-lavender-and-lemon-tart/

I'm not sure, but I'd give it a bash. And Lavender Tart would be a great username, too.

Yeah, lavender needs careful dosing which is why I'm a bit reluctant about trying any of the various coffee shop offerings.
I had a Nordic Spritz last year in Tallinn and that was quince gin, cardamom syrup, lemon juice and sparkling water, it was very nice.

I believe people should be able to voice their opinions as long as they don't break the rules.

Yeah, they mostly can, although sometimes decisions are questionable. Mods are human. If OP was fussed then the best thing to do is to email them and ask.

That sounds bloody lovely.

Oooh, thanks, with Earl Grey as a bonus.
I looked at a recipe for a sweet woodruff tart today and it used 13 egg yolks 😮I might stick to making my usual woodruff panna cotta.

Do you remember which specific thread it was? I'd like to take a look.

If I didn’t love being @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius, I would definitely be LavenderTart, @ArabellaScott!

Bloody hell. I've been blaming @ArabellaScott and it was you all along!
Just waiting for @greencartbluecart to offload some of her frozen rhubarb,then I'll get back on it.

Btw, I haven't drunk alcohol for years (migraines😭) but I have discovered that if I make a Pimms with just one or two drops of Pimms in the lemonade (and the usual mint, strawbs etc) it still tastes like Pimms and doesn't give me a migraine! Worth a try for any sufferers

I didn't see that specific post and certainly not someone being told to fuck off for wanting to talk about race but I have seen non White (sorry, bloody awful phrase but in this case that is the point of commonality) women wanting to talk about their frustrations with White feminism and getting handwaved away with a sort of dismissive "We're all just Women dear". I'm white but I know I get pretty pissed off when men keep denying the impact of sexism on women because they aren't deliberately sexist, and I don't understand why it's so hard to accept the same dynamic might happen with race.

That thread was a good few years ago tbf - the white feminism one. The first one I mentioned was I think in the transwoman in hospital bed one that's still up. I'm not having a pop at anybody here, it was just an example of somebody posting something that was disagreed with and it then being reported and deleted.

The gist was that people were stating the common argument that usually goes "most men are fine but they still commit the majority of sexual assault and we can't tell which are the bad ones".

The poster basically amended the quote to point of that "most women are fine but they still commit the majority of child abuse and we can't tell which are the bad ones who might pose a danger". People called it bullshit and asked for proof, and then a couple of posters said they were reporting it, and it then got deleted.

This was the original thread I mentioned.

What struck me about it was that a fair few of the posters being hostile were regulars whose posts I'd read on many previous occasions and had regarded as being pretty spot on. However, I appreciate white feminism is a touchy subject for some. However, I didn't see anything in the OP suggesting it might be a troll.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3180396-Lets-Talk-about-White-Feminism

Without seeing the deleted post it's hard to comment but I think the extra context that the poster amended the quote is significant.

When you first mentioned it I was surprised it had had that reaction since I've seen the fact that women commit the majority of non-sexual child abuse raised here before and it's not been particularly pushed back - after all women do provide the majority of hours of solo childcare. (The stats might look different based on injuries per hour of care or on severity of injury but that's a topic in its own right and I don't to derail the thread this far in.)

However I had assumed it was just raised as a point in discussion. Amending that quote is kind of goady. There's a difference between a woman in a supposedly woman-only space with an unknown man, and a child subject to abuse from their caregiver. The first is easy to avoid - stop making exceptions for "special" men. The second much harder as children need caregivers and since society isn't really stepping up to enable both parents to be carers at the same time it's often done by an adult alone. They aren't equivalent situations, so I can see why a poster using the fact of non-sexual child abuse to try to score points against women wanting to maintain woman-only spaces would not go down well or raise suspicians of bad faith.

MNHQ would not delete posts just because other posters request them too. Therefore maybe what you considered legitimate did indeed have a back story that you have said you don’t know about. For instance, it could have been a previously banned poster who was trolling.

It is likely that something was going on that caused MNHQ to pull a thread. They won’t do it without it being outside the guidelines.

A few drops of balsamic vinegar in lemonade also tastes like Pimms but without the alcohol 🙂

Spamming is repeating the same post over multiple threads or multiple times in one thread. Spam spam spam.

It isn't having discussions that stray from the opening post.

Are you sure that was here, not on AIBU or on Feminism chat? I don't remember seeing it. I have no doubt that women can treat children badly.

@PregnantBarbie it's not like Reddit here. The mods are not active members of the discussion forum in their capacity as moderators. So there is noone reading a thread and deleting the comments and links they disagree with. Sometimes things get hidden or don't show up and I don't know why, I assume it's a mistake.

That thread is seven years old?

Do you think the moderators who modded it are even still working here?

Or that poster may have reported their own posts and got them deleted for *reasons.

There were some v rude and defensive posters on that thread who completely took offence to the title and the subtext (and kept reposting) but there were also many posters who defended the OP and thanked her for her perspective.

Quite often posters (not so much on FWR, more on AIBU) misread the original post and respond in a snarky manner. Some responses are downright cruel. However, on balance I see regular FWR posters engaging calmly even to goady posts asking for clarity and elaboration on these other perspectives. Much more than the Op deserves IMO but I appreciate the thoughtful replies.

Not sure what @PregnantBarbie your argument is here? That sometimes some regular FWR posters report posts?