The Guardian - Trans Australian kicked out of toilet

[Justme56]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/15/trans-australian-uk-britain-tolerance

https://www.wheelercentre.com/people/jack-nicholls

The person’s sex seems obvious although they seem to consider the idea of ‘presenting as feminine’ is enough!

KOKO email address is [email protected] if anyone wants to show their support.

This is a good point. Is he saying if a woman wears say jeans jumper and trainers she must go in the men’s that day but can use the women’s if she’s in a dress?

No I don't, but just for a second let's say it is.

How did he know the toilet police was a woman?

Why didn't his girlfriends just take him in to the gents?

Maybe he identifies as a writer?

Of course he lives in Melbourne. I recall my husband being worried when I wore my “None Shall Pass” t-shirt to a gaming convention in Melbourne.

If we make that a rule, the massive toilet queue will change to the gents as more women wear trousers than wear skirts/dresses.

I should have noted that the photo of Ed Iz is a photo of him in a queue for the women's toilet.

It's a notorious photo which has been posted here before, but I should remember that everybody hasn't seen every single thing that was ever posted here

Has anyone done a study on the countries where self ID has become law and their figures on violence against w&g? I was reading about Denmark yesterday which made me think of this. I’ve worked with lots of Aussie males and their attitudes to women were incredibly dismissive. New Zealanders to a lesser extent but still patriarchal compared to the UK. Are we TERF Islamd because it’s actually (relatively) a good place to be a woman? That we have the means, method and education to fight back?

What a testerical story. I'm surprised the bouncer touched his arm; I have an acquaintance who is a bouncer, he was once telling me, after doing a training course, there are many rules around touching clientele.

Interesting that in its continued coverage of the SC judgement, the Guardian has another story about some poor marginalised soul who is being denied the most basic of human rights - the right to pee (in the opposite sex toilets).

I wonder why they haven't reported on the fact that Adam Graham, AKA Isla Bryson, has said he is pleased that Victoria McCloud is challenging the ruling at the ECtHR, because it helps his case to be be put back in a women's prison. Why doesn't the Guardian focus on this aspect of the SC ruling 🤔

Over at transgenderuk there is surprise that the ‘terfy as fuck’ Guardian have run this story. Interestingly one post questions whether it’s a true story due to the speculative-fiction-author angle 🧐

His view appears to be if it's a choice between men potentially looking at him funny or women potentially being genuinely distressed/afraid the better option is to distress the women.
I think that's the bit they aren't supposed to say out loud.

Also, while there are dickhead men everywhere, I find it hard to believe in a club venue in a very liberal and alternative leaning place like Camden (where KOKO is), that a man in a dress would get much trouble in the gents.

Last time I was at KOKO ther were loads of flamboyantly dressed men, including several in full make and at least one in a slashed to the naval sparkly cat suit.
London nightlife people are generally a tolerant bunch who have seen a lot.

I’d rather hear from the woman dealing with men like this.

Why do the males always need to be centre, aided by the press.

Jack Nicholls is a British-Australian essayist and speculative-fiction writer based in Melbourne

This is obviously an example of his fictional writing. It's really very poor all round.

I don't get it! Would someone enlighten me?
I'm supposed to let a person with a p walk into a room in which I might be doing personal things, and be able to listen to me using the toilet, JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE DECIDED TO WEAR A DRESS?
So if I'm wearing jeans or chinos, I can just walk into a room in which me are spraying urinals and talking about women?

Exactly!!! MUST BE A WOMAN, because they were crying.

FGS!

If only MN would allow us to edit after publication like other sites do!
Actually I've never sprayed a urinal in my life!

You can edit for a short amount of time after posting. Not long though, a few minutes.

Okay, just read the whole substack. What a load of shite. Fiction writer indeed.

I expect they were doing the opposite. If anything.

Jack has locked his twitter account.

He really thought his entitlement and behaviour was completely acceptable and didn't count on push back.

The silly man was probably getting it from both sides as the TRAs won't like him saying he's not a woman, and rational people think he should have gone to the men's.

I can't believe he got to 2 am before he needed a wee.

Thats the same Eddie Izzard who manages to identify as a male when it comes to acting roles and cross dressed for years and years before identifying as a woman whilst (presumably) using the gents without issue throughout his mere cross dressing period isn't it?

Just need to check its the same bloke who didn't have a problem with his safety in toilets until he identified as having a problem with his safety in toilets (and then apparently this unsafeness was ironically a bunch of teenage girls in the ladies!).

That Eddie Izzard?

He's not got a bladder that identifies as feminine. Thats definitely a male sized bladder thats not gone through childbirth.