Outspoken TRA 'Legaltweetz' suddenly turns against transactivitism

[NotTerfNorCis]

Fascinating stuff. Long-time TRA and transman https://x.com/legaltweetz has made an almost overnight conversion to the gender critical side.

'I honestly feel like I’m leaving a cult. Where saying anything outside of the accepted narrative will get a bunch of anime pfps attacking your character.'

Legaltweetz is now under sustained attack from other TRAs.

If you're on Twitter, go take a look. This person was one of the most vocal TRAs on there until a month ago.

Wondering if it's no coincidence that it's a female person who's got disenchanted with the ideology and its supporters.

They don't care about the truth.

Currently on my facebook someone is telling me (retired clinical physiologist) telling me that 'a year's HRT' completely removes any advantage a 'trans woman' might have.

I mean anyone with an ounce of common sense would realise that is crap.

Also watching with interest and a dose of skepticism which I hope I’ll be able to loose.

another trans identified woman who’s been outspoken about TRAs and mass transition and of children has been calling her out, suggesting she’s enjoying the attention. Swapping one group for another. After watching this happen to another early public desisting woman who courted media attention and then re reversed ferret again and fully transitioned (with a brief stint in an ultra religious sect) I do think it’s important to allow these people space sigh point to support, and not massage egos too much

Christinapple kinda reminds me of the wonderful Twitter exchange i saw in 2020.
It’s just as revealing as Relationship Purposes Robin.

Jamie: I can’t believe some of the awful things JK Rowling said about trans people.

Friend of Jesus: Can you point us to the terrible things? I’d love to read them?

Jamie: I don’t know what she said, but people wouldn’t be criticising her for nothing!

It is very unlikely that JKR will be 'milking' this person as you so weirdly put it. She has a busy life and many other interests. Unlike some.

I remember the times before the word gay was much used for homosexual men, even among homosexual men. And once it became common usage, it was used for men and women alike - gay men and women. (You didn’t often hear lesbian used as either an adjective or a noun). In fact queer was commonly used “he’s a bit queer” and so on. Queer has been reclaimed and reinterpreted now.

People who say “it’s always been so” have memories that only stretch back a relatively short time.

My friend had a nose job when we were 20.

A few years later she said that the only reason she had any bad feelings about it was because it didn’t fix the feelings that she thought it would. I think she accepted her new reality but there was some… resentment (?) that she went through all of that for no reason. She didn’t get more male attention than she did before, no one really noticed to be honest, and she certainly didn’t feel more confident.

I wonder if we will see more of the ROGD girls detransition as they hit their mid-20s
when all of their peers start settling down and their attentions will go to other places.

She will be angry about it at some point, really really angry.

I hope she has a supportive network.

Christinapple does not post in good faith. If someone went on a history enthusiasts' forum and confidently and persistently asserted that Mary Tudor reigned in the 1800s they would be banned for tiresome trolling.

I don't report Christinapple's posts because I think it's instructive for lurkers to witness the deliberate lies, confabulation and complete disengagement with posters patiently posting facts and participating in reasoned debate.

I smell a rat here. It could be a setup by the trans community. People seldom detransition overnight out of the blue with no warning. I wouldn't be surprised if she was pulling a hoax on 'terfs' to get one over us or prove a point.

With regards to legaltweetz detransition I hope she’s ok and gets the right support. Although going through all this completely online is dangerous for her. We should be supportive of every detransitioner because they have gone through an intense and seismic shift and ultimately they are human beings that have been damaged by the ideology we are standing against… but we should remember not everyone has the same thoughts and values that we personally do. They are not automatically going to think the same as us about trans rights and we should all be very wary of what we are saying to strangers on the internet.

Someone who detransed 6 years ago advised her to get off line and keep out of all gender discussions on all sides which I think is excellent advice

my personal feeling is that feminists should be challenging the systems that allow this and the attitudes that inhibit reasoned debate, signpost to helps and support and leave individuals to find their own path.

I believe her for the simple fact that I believe that being a trans man is simply a rejection of being female - I don't believe they think they are really men. So once the delusion wears off, why not realise that you were wrong? She is just way ahead of the curve.

I don't like her cavalier reference to 'not suing anyone' which I assume is a poorly veiled side swipe at the brave and heroic Keira Bell.

Hendrix looks unwell in recent pics, she looks like she has very high blood pressure which is a known side effect of Y in women, with strokes having been reported by the TIFs in the US.

Hendrix has been a huge cheerleader for medicating kids so I don't support her. I don't buy the school of thought that she deserves terfs' support because she's a female and detrans.

JKR is far more forgiving than I am.

Absolutely untrue. It was only LGBT in this millennium.

I started uni in 2005, and I joined the LGB society, not the LGBT soc because it very much was not a thing even that recently.

Q used to stand for Questioning. Until recently where the homophobic slur was brought back into usage.

JK has repeatedly said she supports trans people. She's never said otherwise. Ever. And no one can ever produce a single tweet to the contrary.

“Always”????

It definitely wasn’t in the 80sand 90s.

There were two Qs for a while, which stood for Queer and Questioning. The fact that this is under so much discussion in this thread is an indication of how many nonsense changes there have been over the past 10 years.

Except she has not done that, ever. You're lies are really ridiculous when there is proof to the contrary.

With regard to Pissed Off Lawyer’s detransition, only time will tell. I spoke to James Shupe briefly when he detransitioned. He seemed nice, but ultimately that situation had a very sad end. Similarly I talked to Amy Dyess (sorry, can’t remember current name) when she swapped sides for a while. That didn’t end well either.

I think it’s very clear that many of those who transition are deeply troubled, but I hope that Pissed Off Lawyer can find some stability and help and comes out the other side feeling better.

I also think JKR has her head screwed on and hopefully will be prepared for all eventualities.

HRT doesn't reduce male's larger heart or lung size and capacity nor limb length, tell them that.

Also, these links are good; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33289906/ - Transgender Women in the Female Category of Sport: Perspectives on Testosterone Suppression and Performance Advantage

and

How does hormone transition in transgender women change body composition, muscle strength and haemoglobin? Systematic review with a focus on the implications for sport participation

A Tweet of hers, from 1st June:

‘I’m staunchly anti fascist. And how do you think i was so successful in the gay rights movement and politics? Talking to people that you vehemently disagree with is a part of that. If you can’t stomach it, then, don’t do it. But i can.

I infiltrated the far right in 2017.
Good times.
Had to have one hell of a strong stomach for that too’.

The thing about being in a cult is that when you realise you are in a cult and decide you don't want to be there is no going back.

It seems like a sudden 180 but if you suddenly see things differently then that's that you can't really carry on as you were.