Juno Dawson calls feminists 'maggots'

[ArabellaScott]

Dawson is making very little sense in this article, but the woman-hatred is very clear.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/juno-dawson-pride-trans-woman-supreme-court-b2765178.html

I think there is something in that, but I also think that we need to be very aware of the elephant in the room, which is that 'transitioning to be a woman' can have a sexual aspect to it. The journey can be the point. The fact that it's not a functional female body at the end is irrelevant, because the goal is a transitioned male body, which is an entirely different thing. (I don't know if I'm explaining this very well).

Quite.

Another TRA, legal professor Alex Sharpe, once called GC feminist women “bubonic plague”. On so called Woman’s Hour! https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3434210-Womens-Hour-features-interviews-with-Professor-Alex-Sharpe-and-Professor-Rosa-Freedman-as-part-of-Sex-Gender-series-Thread-title-edited-at-OPs-request?page=2

Yes I was leaving that elephant aside! I'd seen JD as more self-loathing (and misogynistic) gay than AGP, but tbh I'm not sure how much crossover there can be between the two. JD has indeed banged on about wanting to be "fucked like a woman" etc and the Freda Wallace-style miniskirt flashing is another feature.

I'd call it cosmetic surgery.

It was some guy, yes.

Their ability to project and turn those projections into DARVO is really quite something. It's a well-practised form of gaslighting: they've been doing it for years.

I can't believe there is anyone still out there who takes this nonsense at face value. It has to be a conscious form of denial. Whatever it is, it's outright disingenuous.

Because he is and always will be a man.

There is no such thing as 'full transitioning'

See, I often think I'm cynical and jaded, and then things like this still take me by surprise. Adult men read Teen Vogue?! Fucking WHY

I think you know why.

I expect Teen Vogue knows that too and it would explain a lot.

It's so interesting that you've said this. Because you've basically admitted that pronoun compliance is driven by a culture of fear.

But I would say it to his face. He's a man. I'm not pretending that he's anything else.

https://media-studies.com/teenvogue-study-guide/

"It is worth noting 30% of the audience are men and a similar figure are over 40 years of age."

https://www.similarweb.com/website/teenvogue.com/#geography

And note.... they are upfront that they are 'male' so the stats are not counting those who say they are female and are 'girls'.

While the stats could be skewed, it has long been discussed on social media that the articles are indeed also aimed for men and the male audience.

There's more overlap between a certain type of (self-loathing? maybe, maybe not) gay man and AGP than you might think.

I hadn't heard about JD insisting his boyfriend was straight, but among some gay men, the idea of pulling a straight man is a MASSIVE fetish. It's often connected to sissification fetishes.

There's an obvious parallel with the hetero AGPs who obsess over the idea of pulling lesbians.

I notice the TipsyRaven247 has flown off. That's one way of enforcing #nodebate, isn't it? Talk to the tail feathers, the head ain't listening..

It is like it often is. Once someone realises just what they have supported there is little that they can do to recover their position of moral superiority. It is like the poster who demonised Maya Formatter for answering a direct question from an interviewer (ie. not directly talking to the man who was also in panel being interviewed) for saying that she would call the man a man.

The man that the poster was defending had just announced to the world, as a barrister, that they had a sexual relationship with a man who they did not disclose to that they were also male person until well after the encounter. ie. that the sex partner's consent for sex with another male person was not sort and that sex partner thought they were having sex with a 'woman'.

The poster really couldn't see the moral issue and kept saying 'but she misgendered him....' as if that was the most egregious thing that was discovered in that segment. This attempt by Tipsy was just like that.

Women reluctant to do anything that might upset a male who openly and without condemnation refers to them as maggots, is that a surprise?

Should we need 'gall' to tell an obvious truth?

If we do, isn't that a symptom of what has gone very wrong with this 'progressive' movement?

oh god same. There was so much hype about Teen Vogue telling the girls exactly how it is, and now we find out it's all been pandering to sissy-porn lovers and groomers?

I feel sick.

I haven’t read it and unaware of the author but the Independent has been woeful on this.

Teen Vogue does not surprise me at all.

It's like, if I see a "lesbian" website giving young lesbians tips on how to give blowjobs, I know what demographic that site is serving, even if it's not the majority of the site's readership.

A brief review of Dawson's Dr Who episode can be found here (14mins 55 secs). Hopefully, the link will start at the correct place as it is part of a review of the whole season.

Other reviews are available if you don't like Nerdrotic or want a more in-depth review, but even this short review manages to mention Dawson's book 'This book is gay' and include a bit of footage that shows Dawson's maleness very clearly.

Thanks. I am very surprised.

I just am minded of Ricky Gervais: 'Of course she's a woman, look at her pronouns!'

Genius line

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