Juno Dawson calls feminists 'maggots'

[ArabellaScott]

Dawson is making very little sense in this article, but the woman-hatred is very clear.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/juno-dawson-pride-trans-woman-supreme-court-b2765178.html

"we overwhelmingly haven't done anything wrong"

Not unless you are invading women's single sex spaces man.

Not unless you are threatening death to people who know that sex is immutable.

Not unless you are encouraging children to believe they can be born in the wrong body.

Apart from that...

The links have now been unhidden.

This has been a thread of discussion on twitter recently. Particularly in light of Tino's recent Disney trip and some of the transgender community stating Tino is not transgender.

I think it also becomes clear when you look at the editing of the NY Times podcast series 'The Protocol' which has been presented very much in the light that there are children who are really transgender and who need the Dutch Protocol style of treatment.

Why? What would he do if I did?

Well you're wrong. He'll always be a man.

Clearly it makes a huge difference to the man himself! I mean it doesn't make any difference to women expected to share space with him. Or to the law.

I suppose at least we now know who Bratz dolls were really aimed at. It wasn't little girls.

She is a fully transitioned transgender woman.

It's interesting how much this statement hinges on the fact we're not clownfish.

"Fully transitioned" means "had as much done to him by doctors and surgeons as is possible to make a man imitate a woman".

But no actual changing of sex to all, because humans can't change sex. "Fully-transitioned" by taking every cosmetic procedure, but no changing of sex even attempted.

If some humans actually did change sex, presumably there would be a similar conflict between the men who really had become female, and those like Dawson who were trying to imitate the process.

my cis friends have rallied around me and my trans sisters

No mention of ‘my trans brothers’. It’s all about the men. As always.

Well, quite. It's funny how TipsyRaven doesn't understand that they are making our point for us. If you misgender a trans woman, then he might well respond with typically male aggression or violence.

And the fact this has been at all accepted demonstrates how powerful institutions are still dominated by men. And that women with children (who would have a very different interpretation of the feelings of a 4 year old) are still underrepresented in positions of power and influence.

Dawson's article is entirely fuelled by indignant outrage that the maggoty feminists have spoiled his lovely fun and made happy Juno sad. How dare they?

Those abused women with their boring trauma can get to fuck. Those scared young girls who are pushed around and shamed on the daily at school, who instinctively recognise a man and understand the threat he poses in certain situations can STFU and know their place. All of that yawn-making female experience is insignificant in comparison to Dawson's demand to be HAPPY and be flattered and validated and given the world as his playground. He doesn't want to be troubled with our collective generational trauma. It's piffle on the wind beside the dent in his contentment. He's happy, that's all that matters! Why doesn't that make us happy too?

Indeed. Many of us have learned far too early how to navigate the presence of dangerous males.

And yes I called him "dangerous" because what we know for sure is that he disregards women's boundaries and encourages other males to do the same. Massive red flags.

Or that we would be ashamed of deliberately using language that would cause so much hurt to that person, while ignoring the very fact of how much hurt is caused to women by our language being demanded by men.

Either way RoyalCorgi, you hit the nail on the head.

Who is telling men that surgery or a GRC will make them a woman? Didn't it used to be the case that men who thought they would actually change sex were refused a GRC, as part of the pre screening process?

100%

Women are a means to an end for someone who sees any women who dare to fight for their legal rights as 'maggots'.

One might ask what the 'apple' represents.

"He doesn't want to be troubled with our collective generational trauma. It's piffle on the wind beside the dent in his contentment."

And it is fuel for fantasies, innit. Nothing like 'being fucked like a woman', eh Dawson? And girls are nothing but 'perky little boobs' and objects for men to stick their dicks into from the storylines.

So empowering from a male ex-primary school PSHC teacher who has a qualification in teaching children about their boundaries.

Why not? What would happen do you think?

Always so bloody telling

Remember -

Dawson : stunning and so brave
Women : maggots, germs and obnoxious

Disingenuous piece full of misrepresentation and false victimhood, as per.

I mainly try not to get personal about individual transactivists/trans people as I think it’s victimhood fuel for their movement and also I do worry that many trans people are vulnerable and have poor MH, from personal experience. Also there are some that I find perfectly personable and would be happy to chat with (if they were).

But Dawson is, along with Jeffrey Marsh and Abigail Thorn among others, someone who gives me a very uncomfortable feeling of aggression and misogyny that would make me actively scared to meet them. With Dawson it’s actually a possibility as I work in the same field. I’m horrified by the works that have been published (both fiction and non-fiction) by Dawson (as Juno Dawson) that are clearly based on personal sexual fantasy and are absolutely horrific as content for minors. Not just massively inappropriate and dangerous but full of appalling stereotypes and expectations. It’s a massive egregious example of how no one dares to question or challenge anything a trans person does and it must all be fine because it’s an “underrepresented voice” or “authentic”.

I’ve worked with people who have been involved in publishing and editing Juno (as opposed to James) and they are perfectly nice sensible thinking people in other contexts. If anyone non-trans tried to sell them a pile of misogynist sissy porn or unevidenced harmful activist nonsense for kids, from the pen of an unashamedly outspoken homophobe, they’d see the problem. But all publishers can think of is how great and inclusive they are for having a big name trans writer on their list. It doesn’t matter what dodgy pornified content or unscientific shite they produce. See also “Grandpa’s Pride” with its fetish gear and “MAP” and “Jamie” which extols the virtues of “harmless” puberty blockers.

I do hope and think it’s starting to change and people are asking more questions, but Dawson has been an absolutely prime example. I think the same goes for JD’s journalism. Write anything, your word is gospel and no one will check if it’s accurate or makes sense!

Not one person has ever 'fully transitioned'.

Maybe TipsyRaven is upset about the use of 'plastic' because they would rather the word 'cosmetic' were used?

https://www.nhs.uk/tests-and-treatments/plastic-surgery/

'Plastic surgery is used to repair and reconstruct missing or damaged tissue and skin.

The main aim of plastic surgery is to restore the function and appearance of tissue and skin so it's as close to normal as possible.

Plastic surgery is different from cosmetic surgery, which is surgery carried out solely to change a person's appearance to achieve what they feel is a more desirable look.'

The purity spirals on TwiX are interesting to watch. An American TRA who has been quite the darling for a while but has woken up to the misogyny and irrevocable child harm involved is now being slammed for allowing terfs to slide into his DMs and ‘groom him’.

' I’m horrified by the works that have been published (both fiction and non-fiction) by Dawson (as Juno Dawson) that are clearly based on personal sexual fantasy and are absolutely horrific as content for minors. Not just massively inappropriate and dangerous but full of appalling stereotypes and expectations. '

Absolutely this.

Dawson's books are being marketed to teenage girls. Vulnerable girls often find risky behaviour fascinating. I'm very concerned at the harm that is done - not so much by Dawson, as misogynists are ten a penny and there are plenty of books with horrible content out there, but by the librarians, book reps, bookshops, influencers and teachers who are actually promoting the books and tacitly the messages therein to a generation of young girls who are being constantly told taht they must 'respect' a man who tells them he is a woman, despite the evidence of their own eyes and ears, and that if they go to court to defend women's rights they are 'maggots'.