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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Juno Dawson calls feminists 'maggots'

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ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 07:43

Dawson is making very little sense in this article, but the woman-hatred is very clear.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/juno-dawson-pride-trans-woman-supreme-court-b2765178.html

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TipsyRaven247 · 10/06/2025 09:23

CrackingOn50 · 10/06/2025 09:20

what is a 'fully transitioned woman'?

I stand corrected. She is a fully transitioned transgender woman.
However, I doubt that all those posters using male pronouns to refer to her would have the gall to do so in her presence

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 09:24

He's a man who has had some plastic surgery.

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TipsyRaven247 · 10/06/2025 09:23

I stand corrected. She is a fully transitioned transgender woman.
However, I doubt that all those posters using male pronouns to refer to her would have the gall to do so in her presence

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Ha, really? I think you aren't familiar with many of the posters here! Plenty of gall!

Helleofabore · 10/06/2025 09:26

TipsyRaven247 · 10/06/2025 09:23

I stand corrected. She is a fully transitioned transgender woman.
However, I doubt that all those posters using male pronouns to refer to her would have the gall to do so in her presence

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I would. Just because Dawson claims to be a woman, doesn't mean that any other person has to use the language that he demands people to use.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/06/2025 09:26

TipsyRaven247 · 10/06/2025 09:18

Why are posters referring to this person as a "he"? She is a fully transitioned woman.

People can’t change sex, women are not obliged to participate in the fantasies of men who believe they are women, especially those men who refer to us as maggots.

TipsyRaven247 · 10/06/2025 09:27

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ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 09:28

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He's called us 'maggots'. That seems less than polite, don't you think?

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SirChenjins · 10/06/2025 09:29

Yet another bloke who presents his idea of womanhood to the world demonstrating the male entitlement and anger that’s all too familiar 🥱

I don’t care what he thinks or how difficult he believes his life has now become, he has shown no thought or consideration for women - and the rights he wants were never his to take in the first place, so he’ll have to find a solution that doesn’t involve trampling the rights of women or inserting himself into spaces that he has no legal right to inhabit.

Igneococcus · 10/06/2025 09:29

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What would you call surgery that isn't required from a health perspective and is purely to make someone look a certain way?

Helleofabore · 10/06/2025 09:29

OldCrone · 10/06/2025 09:05

Juno once said:

"I just wanted to get f**d like a woman. That's what it's about. It's not about what hole it's going in"

He also said:

"a lot of gay men are gay men as a consolation prize, because they couldn't be women."

I think that's all we need to know. It's quite clear he's motivated by misogyny and homophobia.

All my life I thought I was a gay man – but according to Juno Dawson in Attitude today, I'm actually a trans woman | The Independent | The Independent

Yes, I remember these delightful quotes too.

On par for the pornified misogynistic male that he is. But apparently, we should be respecting such a misogynist as being a woman.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/06/2025 09:30

TipsyRaven247 · 10/06/2025 09:23

I stand corrected. She is a fully transitioned transgender woman.
However, I doubt that all those posters using male pronouns to refer to her would have the gall to do so in her presence

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So not a woman then? I would absolutely ‘have the gall’ to use male pronouns in his presence, he’s a man after all, I don’t agree to lie to disturbed men.

DialSquare · 10/06/2025 09:30

TipsyRaven247 · 10/06/2025 09:18

Why are posters referring to this person as a "he"? She is a fully transitioned woman.

Why are you policing other posters speech?

CassieAusten · 10/06/2025 09:31

DecayedStrumpet · 10/06/2025 07:57

"I have two dogs and spend my money on expensive cocktails and rare Bratz dolls from 2001"

Oh well definitely a woman then. No idea why those maggotty feminists are banging on about structural inequality, gendered expectations, and chromosomes. Probably just bigots I guess.

I don't have dogs, don't collect Bratz dolls (or any other childhood toys) and spend my money on boring things like the mortgage and petrol. I assume I am a man now.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/06/2025 09:32

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What is it called then?

Helleofabore · 10/06/2025 09:32

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It is the blunt truth.

Dawson is a male person who has undergone extreme body modification to match his body to his identity. His identity is based on his philosophical belief and it doesn't reflect material reality. Hence, needing extreme body modification to to make parts of it fit the fuckable body that Dawson has publicly discussed he wanted to have.

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 09:32

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/06/2025 09:30

So not a woman then? I would absolutely ‘have the gall’ to use male pronouns in his presence, he’s a man after all, I don’t agree to lie to disturbed men.

I'd have more to say about his calling women 'maggots' than his pronouns, to be honest. Although actually far more damaging is someone who writes books aimed at teenage girls that include lines like “let them use your body and get fucked both ends like a little piggy,” and “You’re a fucking cum slut. Worthless tranny whore”.

This is not a person from whom I'd be taking lessons on civility.

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ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 09:34

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This is so fascinating.

A man calls women 'maggots' and we have a thread sharing years of sexist, misogynist, homophobic quotes that he's made.

But the anger here is directed at women who point out calmly the fact that he is male.

Where does that come from, do you think?

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thedancingclown · 10/06/2025 09:35

This is who I wanted to be. I wear what I want, and eat what I want. I have two dogs and spend my money on expensive cocktails and rare Bratz dolls from 2001. Choices.

choices all available to biological males. Do not need to question gender over it. Men are chefs & fashion designers, who do wear what they want & eat what they want. Cocktails are universal, as are dogs & brats dolls can be purchased by anyone. None of this defines sex or gender.

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 09:36

In fact, you're saying its 'obnoxious' to say that penis inversion is 'plastic surgery'.

That's even more interesting. It seems to me as though you're treating the surgical flaying and inversion of a penis as some kind of holy, sacred rite, that achieves the mystical and impossible feat of changing sex. Not merely a surgical procedure.

It's blasphemy to say it's a medical procedure, is that what you mean? I hope you answer, I'm really keen to understand the reasoning.

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Helleofabore · 10/06/2025 09:36

DialSquare · 10/06/2025 09:30

Why are you policing other posters speech?

Indeed!

Why are we being shamed for correctly using established English language conventions to refer to a male person and one with such a hateful view of female people?

It is really very enlightening as a demonstration of how this group gets special treatment.

Or maybe we would be ok if we said:

"Juno Dawson says and writes with such pure hatred of female people that I wonder why media celebrate her."

Because I said 'her'. Would that be more acceptable do you think?

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/06/2025 09:37

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 09:32

I'd have more to say about his calling women 'maggots' than his pronouns, to be honest. Although actually far more damaging is someone who writes books aimed at teenage girls that include lines like “let them use your body and get fucked both ends like a little piggy,” and “You’re a fucking cum slut. Worthless tranny whore”.

This is not a person from whom I'd be taking lessons on civility.

Exactly this. TBH, if I were ever unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity of this man, I would firstly have to ask myself how that happened, because I cannot imagine a scenario where our lives would collide, and secondly would take the decision to leave, I refuse to validate these men.

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 09:39

The other point about women having the 'courage' to use male pronouns for Dawson does have some truth. I would be extremely wary of Dawson were I to meet him. I would be unlikely to say anything that might make him angry, given his history of using dehumanising and overwrought rhetoric towards women.

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Helleofabore · 10/06/2025 09:41

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 09:32

I'd have more to say about his calling women 'maggots' than his pronouns, to be honest. Although actually far more damaging is someone who writes books aimed at teenage girls that include lines like “let them use your body and get fucked both ends like a little piggy,” and “You’re a fucking cum slut. Worthless tranny whore”.

This is not a person from whom I'd be taking lessons on civility.

I know. But apparently, that is all acceptable Arabella.

To be fully celebrated by media around the world.... and never to be pointed out that a male ex-primary school teacher is writing teen porn with such horrific pornified storylines and deplorable stereotypes for female characters that I guess is supposed to be empowering.

No. pronouns that fail to centre this man's desire is the issue at hand.

FluffykinsTheFerociousFeralFelineFury · 10/06/2025 09:41

TeamKenwood · 10/06/2025 07:55

“I just want to live my life the way I always imagined it. I have become the version of myself I wanted to be when I was four. This is who I wanted to be. I wear what I want, and eat what I want. I have two dogs and spend my money on expensive cocktails and rare Bratz dolls from 2001”

All women are to this movement are a set of stereotypes.

Well, if he wants to live the life of an affluent self indulgent man (or woman) in a capitalist society he is free to do so. It's just a pity his dreams are so small.