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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

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ItsCoolForCats · 07/06/2025 09:59

Simone Biles has come out in defence of males in women's sports, and has attacked Riley Gaines for fighting against it. She said on Twitter:

"@RileyGaines
You’re truly sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category IN ALL sports!! But instead… You bully them… One things for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around!!!!!"

So, so disappointing. Both my daughters do gymnastics and are huge SB fans, so it is awful for her to show such contempt towards RG, who is fighting for a level playing field for women and girls in sport. And to suggest a separate category as if nobody has ever thought of that and tried it 🤦🏻‍♀️

https://x.com/Riley_Gaines_

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BundleBoogie · 07/06/2025 11:21

NautilusLionfish · 07/06/2025 10:53

May be SB is a misogynist for saying that but RG isn't a saint because she is against transwomen in sports. The woman is a fully fledged Trump hugging MAGA. So she cares about the one issue that took away a 4th place for her (she came 5th so taking Lia off she would have been no 4. OK yes I give in it affects more women than her). But she doesn't care about women's reproductive rights being taken away. Or civil and human rights of non-white people. Or poor people.
SB is definitely wrong with her jibe on RG's looks but she is not wrong imo to suggest a separate category. They both need to dial back on the sm bullying

Omg. Do you realise how you sound?

WithSilverBells · 07/06/2025 11:22

Thing is, if one party is telling you that men can be women and you are a bigot if you disagree then you can understand why some women might think they cannot be trusted on all the other stuff too. Plenty of life-long lefties on FWR considering what previously would have been unpalatable voting decisions.

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 11:22

MorrisZapp · 07/06/2025 11:20

What an absolute let down. She's obviously considered this issue for all of five minutes, her groundbreaking 'separate category' suggestion has been found totally unworkable. Maybe next she'll realise that people have mixed sex toilets in their house 🙄

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 11:25

Riley Gaines in no way resembles a man or has the build of a man. It’s a really fucking stupid thing to say.

usedtobeaylis · 07/06/2025 11:26

God how tiresome. Stop doing what you're doing and instead do extra work for the men oh and you're like a man. What a dickhead.

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 11:26

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 11:25

Riley Gaines in no way resembles a man or has the build of a man. It’s a really fucking stupid thing to say.

Yes, even if one were to agree with Simone's other points, this is dim.

AllTheEnergy · 07/06/2025 11:27

How disappointing, selfish, misogynistic and nasty.

usedtobeaylis · 07/06/2025 11:28

NautilusLionfish · 07/06/2025 10:18

She didn't say no one has thought about it. She is not saying let transwomen in women's sport. She is saying let's find a solution. Am sure Biles is reacting because Riley's comment relates to a young person and she knows her MAGA crew will be on this young person like hounds. Riley may have legitimate concerns about transwomen in women's sports but her Maganess. And Gaines is against anyone speak about how black women are sidelined in American sports (like basketball) and the privilege of white women in sports. So yeah I can understand Biles' comments front that angle

She's not saying let's find a solution, she's demanding Riley Gaines finds a solution.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 11:28

It’s the kind of inane, deluded remark you get on TRA Reddit. Maybe it was some twat working for her as suggested.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 11:30

She’s either fully beclowned herself or allowed someone else to do it.

usedtobeaylis · 07/06/2025 11:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 11:28

It’s the kind of inane, deluded remark you get on TRA Reddit. Maybe it was some twat working for her as suggested.

It no different to screaming TRAs at all. No basis in anything except trying to score points for herself. Absolutely unnecessary.

Rightsraptor · 07/06/2025 11:34

Looks like I'll have to add Simone Biles's name to my list of people who I admire for their skills & achievements while having to ignore all the rest of their shit.

terryleather · 07/06/2025 11:41

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 11:28

It’s the kind of inane, deluded remark you get on TRA Reddit. Maybe it was some twat working for her as suggested.

Indeed.

It's like a trip back to 2018 or thereabouts with added nastiness.

Men who demand we call them women don't want a third category so as far as I'm concerned they compete in the male category or they don't compete at all, it's that simple.

SionnachRuadh · 07/06/2025 11:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 11:30

She’s either fully beclowned herself or allowed someone else to do it.

Maybe she's allowed John Oliver control of her Twitter account.

terryleather · 07/06/2025 11:44

Rightsraptor · 07/06/2025 11:34

Looks like I'll have to add Simone Biles's name to my list of people who I admire for their skills & achievements while having to ignore all the rest of their shit.

To be fair it's ever been thus - admire the skills, talent and achievements and ignore the rest as you say.

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 11:49

usedtobeaylis · 07/06/2025 11:28

She's not saying let's find a solution, she's demanding Riley Gaines finds a solution.

Indeed. Simone has shown precisely zero incinlation to do any actual work on the subject herself.

TheKeatingFive · 07/06/2025 11:49

So disappointing. How many vault and floor titles would she have if men were allowed to compete with her?

RedToothBrush · 07/06/2025 11:53

Ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of a person who is unwilling or unable to engage with the ideas rather than the person.

Biles shows herself up by focusing on the personal rather than addressing issues.

Break down Biles message:

You’re truly sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race.
It's not because RG lost a race. It's about a wide systematic attack on women's opportunities and rights that RG just happened to be one example of. Personal attack.

Straight up sore loser.
She's not a sore loser. She's seeing widespread injustice. It's not just about RG. Another personal attack.

You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports.
Why should RG be doing this? RG is only concerned about the integrity of women's sport. Why is it RGs responsibility? Why isn't SB taking on this responsibility given her high profile. She could do something positive rather than trash RG.

Maybe a transgender category IN ALL sports!!
If only we'd thought about this and suggested it before. Nice to keep up with the subject.

But instead… You bully them…
Pointing out the unfairness and injustice to women is NOT bullying. If you want to take the moral high ground about bullying, this isn't the way to do it.

One things for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around!!!!!"
What evidence is there for this? That's quite the accusation. That's potentially actionable in some places.

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 11:53

TheKeatingFive · 07/06/2025 11:49

So disappointing. How many vault and floor titles would she have if men were allowed to compete with her?

Probably the same number of all-around titles she'd have if it also required her to do rings and pommel horse.

Floisme · 07/06/2025 11:56

I can understand Simone Biles not liking Riley Gaines’ political allegiances but, if that’s the real reason behind this, then the sensible thing would be to say so. Calling RG a sore loser and comparing her to a man discredits only of them, and it’s not Riley Gaines who comes out of it badly.

But then I’ve not got a Netflix doc about me coming up so maybe I’m just behind the times.

NecessaryScene · 07/06/2025 12:08

But am saying SB isn't saying transwomen should be in women's sport but is supporting solutions like a transwomen category (and yes I know many in the trans community don't want this bit it's still what SB is suggesting here).

So you're thinking that there's no difference of opinion on policy, and it's just a pure personal attack?

Not sure that makes it sound any better.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 07/06/2025 12:13

PermanentTemporary · 07/06/2025 10:30

What @NautilusLionfish said. Simon Biles is saying what many GC people are saying - we need to find a way for sport to be inclusive, maybe a transgender category would work. I don't personally agree with that idea but it's a completely normal one here, why is anyone kicking her for it? As a truly extraordinary champion who has experienced endless racism Biles has every right to her opinion. Gaines has a good case about Lia Thomas of course but has chosen to sign up with a full rightwing programme that I don't agree with either.

I don't think many GC women are body shaming female athletes, are they?

Since Simone Biles is now a retired athlete, perhaps she can take on the task of creating transgender sporting categories herself, since female athletes who are still competing have got enough on their plates.

I'd like to see whether she changes her tune when she realises that trans people don't actually seem to want their own categories, and that using women's sports to validate their gender identities is the point.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 07/06/2025 12:17

NautilusLionfish · 07/06/2025 10:53

May be SB is a misogynist for saying that but RG isn't a saint because she is against transwomen in sports. The woman is a fully fledged Trump hugging MAGA. So she cares about the one issue that took away a 4th place for her (she came 5th so taking Lia off she would have been no 4. OK yes I give in it affects more women than her). But she doesn't care about women's reproductive rights being taken away. Or civil and human rights of non-white people. Or poor people.
SB is definitely wrong with her jibe on RG's looks but she is not wrong imo to suggest a separate category. They both need to dial back on the sm bullying

Riley Gaines is allowed to hold whatever political opinions she chooses.

I disagree with her about most things but that doesn't mean she isn't right about fairness in women's sports.

Helleofabore · 07/06/2025 12:23

How disappointing.

I wonder if she has seen the clip of male gymnasts doing the female routines and how easily they perform moves female people can’t.

SionnachRuadh · 07/06/2025 12:26

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 07/06/2025 12:17

Riley Gaines is allowed to hold whatever political opinions she chooses.

I disagree with her about most things but that doesn't mean she isn't right about fairness in women's sports.

If anyone I know wants to know the arguments about women's sports, I send them the long interview Riley did with Megyn Kelly. It's the best single breakdown of the issue that I know.

My patience with left wing women imposing purity tests and saying we can't speak with right wing women expired a long time ago. Especially given many of them have a record of covering for the scummy behaviour of left wing men.

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