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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

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ItsCoolForCats · 07/06/2025 09:59

Simone Biles has come out in defence of males in women's sports, and has attacked Riley Gaines for fighting against it. She said on Twitter:

"@RileyGaines
You’re truly sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category IN ALL sports!! But instead… You bully them… One things for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around!!!!!"

So, so disappointing. Both my daughters do gymnastics and are huge SB fans, so it is awful for her to show such contempt towards RG, who is fighting for a level playing field for women and girls in sport. And to suggest a separate category as if nobody has ever thought of that and tried it 🤦🏻‍♀️

https://x.com/Riley_Gaines_

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WithSilverBells · 07/06/2025 16:25

I propose that every one under 5'8" is Female and everyone over 5'8" is Male. Works for me. Although it will mean that I just lost a son and gained a daughter.

SionnachRuadh · 07/06/2025 16:25

If Martina recognises her as a woman, that should be good enough for anyone.

Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines
SionnachRuadh · 07/06/2025 16:27

WithSilverBells · 07/06/2025 16:25

I propose that every one under 5'8" is Female and everyone over 5'8" is Male. Works for me. Although it will mean that I just lost a son and gained a daughter.

Joseph Heller, Catch-22:

Their names were Gus and Wes and they had succeeded in elevating medicine to an exact science. All men reporting on sick call with temperatures above 102 were rushed to the hospital. All those except Yossarian reporting on sick call with temperatures below 102 had their gums and toes painted with gentian violet solution and were given a laxative to throw away into the bushes. All those reporting on a sick call with temperatures of exactly 102 were asked to return in an hour to have their temperatures taken again. Yossarian, with his temperature of 101, could go to the hospital whenever he wanted to because he was not afraid of them.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 07/06/2025 16:29

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 11:28

It’s the kind of inane, deluded remark you get on TRA Reddit. Maybe it was some twat working for her as suggested.

I’m not buying that, both tweets are still up, no sign of her deleting or apologising. It’s her view, she obviously is this nasty and misogynistic.

WithSilverBells · 07/06/2025 16:32

SionnachRuadh · 07/06/2025 16:27

Joseph Heller, Catch-22:

Their names were Gus and Wes and they had succeeded in elevating medicine to an exact science. All men reporting on sick call with temperatures above 102 were rushed to the hospital. All those except Yossarian reporting on sick call with temperatures below 102 had their gums and toes painted with gentian violet solution and were given a laxative to throw away into the bushes. All those reporting on a sick call with temperatures of exactly 102 were asked to return in an hour to have their temperatures taken again. Yossarian, with his temperature of 101, could go to the hospital whenever he wanted to because he was not afraid of them.

Sionnach, is there a book or film you have not seen or read. How do you fit so much into one lifetime?😍

SionnachRuadh · 07/06/2025 16:34

WithSilverBells · 07/06/2025 16:32

Sionnach, is there a book or film you have not seen or read. How do you fit so much into one lifetime?😍

I have massive gaps in my knowledge, but what I do know I tend to remember 😉

Skipthisbit · 07/06/2025 16:42

She doesn’t vote for a party that “I don’t approve of.”

She’s an active campaigning voice for the party - and specifically for the hard right element of that party - that is stripping away women’s rights across America. She’s already made clear her political intentions clear so for all you who laud her views - I hope you’ll be delighted when she achieves her ambitions. What a huge stride in feminism and the advancement of women’s rights that will be.

NautilusLionfish · 07/06/2025 16:44

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 07/06/2025 16:24

And as to your other point about a third category, it isn’t what TIM want, they want to compete against women, because we are meant to accept them as women. Which they’re not, they’re men. It’s all about power and control.

Again I have pointed this out in my first or second. Anyhow...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 16:49

Skipthisbit · 07/06/2025 16:42

She doesn’t vote for a party that “I don’t approve of.”

She’s an active campaigning voice for the party - and specifically for the hard right element of that party - that is stripping away women’s rights across America. She’s already made clear her political intentions clear so for all you who laud her views - I hope you’ll be delighted when she achieves her ambitions. What a huge stride in feminism and the advancement of women’s rights that will be.

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Any comment on the fact that you think it’s ok for Biles to call her manly because she’s 5 foot eight, even though you got that wrong anyway?

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 16:50

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 07/06/2025 16:29

I’m not buying that, both tweets are still up, no sign of her deleting or apologising. It’s her view, she obviously is this nasty and misogynistic.

Oh I reckon it's Simone, but I'd love to be a fly on the wall while she discusses the issue with her branding people today.

Because it was all very incoherent. People have presumed she's speaking in favour of letting trans people compete with their chosen category not sex, and I suspect that's what she thinks, but she's not actually said that. She proposed a separate trans category that many of them consider to be bigoted, othering etc, and she also suggested that tall (or in fact not) women look like men. Both of those things have also earned her a bit of criticism for transphobia, in addition to those of us slagging her off from the GC side. If she were going to come out as a trans ally, accusing other women of resembling men isn't a great way to position yourself. Because after all, lots of transwomen do look like men, and thinking that's insulting or negative is actually quite telling.

I reckon she'll probably get away with it if she doesn't dig any further, but people have been roasted by the trans lobby for less.

Helleofabore · 07/06/2025 16:51

Skipthisbit · 07/06/2025 16:42

She doesn’t vote for a party that “I don’t approve of.”

She’s an active campaigning voice for the party - and specifically for the hard right element of that party - that is stripping away women’s rights across America. She’s already made clear her political intentions clear so for all you who laud her views - I hope you’ll be delighted when she achieves her ambitions. What a huge stride in feminism and the advancement of women’s rights that will be.

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Has anyone said she is a feminist?

How do you think activism works? Do you think that everyone has to answer an extensive questionnaire before that are allowed to ‘activate’ on an issue? That they have to prove they are a perfect fit for all the progressive beliefs about issues before anyone can agree with them on one issue?

Do you think that if someone who has views that others reject, that people should reject all their efforts even when they have a depth of experience in the one topic you agree on?

You really do sound very tribal in your posts, how do you function in real life? Do you refuse to work, associate or use services with or of anyone until you vet their answers on your chosen topics?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 16:51

Exactly, the “hur dur you look like a man too” line isn’t exactly the most convincing genderist argument.

OldMcDonaldHadABigMac · 07/06/2025 16:53

Bile by name bile by nature I guess...

ItsCoolForCats · 07/06/2025 16:53

WithSilverBells · 07/06/2025 15:40

https://x.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1931345437761376394

She's had her DH measure her on camera. 5' 5 1/2"

I guess that makes @Skipthisbit post truth 🤔 Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia.

Anyway, her height is completely besides the point. Even if she was 6 ft 4, she shouldn't have to compete against men in the female category.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 07/06/2025 16:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 16:49

Any comment on the fact that you think it’s ok for Biles to call her manly because she’s 5 foot eight, even though you got that wrong anyway?

Or on the fact that Democrats have happily backed any and all women’s spaces been handed over to men with lady feelings including - checks notes - prisons, sorority’s, sport, refuges?

why any woman would back a party that cant even fucking define what a woman is let alone defend them as a sex class baffles me

frankly women in America are screwed either way

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 16:58

Skipthisbit · 07/06/2025 16:42

She doesn’t vote for a party that “I don’t approve of.”

She’s an active campaigning voice for the party - and specifically for the hard right element of that party - that is stripping away women’s rights across America. She’s already made clear her political intentions clear so for all you who laud her views - I hope you’ll be delighted when she achieves her ambitions. What a huge stride in feminism and the advancement of women’s rights that will be.

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Or perhaps those on the feminist left in the US could be a bit less useless, and make it so that women who value our sex based rights actually have somewhere to go, instead of ceding the ground to MAGA like a bunch of absolute fucking idiots.

WithSilverBells · 07/06/2025 17:01

why any woman would back a party that cant even fucking define what a woman is let alone defend them as a sex class baffles me

Ikr. It's like they think we don't even notice that bit

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 07/06/2025 17:01

Good old Simone., ‘stunning and brave’ as ever.

She was fairly upset when she was criticised for being rather under par during competition, everyone was supposed to be ‘supportive’ ; but it’s okay for her to sling the insults about another athlete’s performance and indeed appearance.

Not a Good move.

SueSuddio · 07/06/2025 17:06

The BBC reporting of this incident is as disappointing as ever.

No mention of the snide and nasty remark to Riley likening her to a man. Calling trans identified males trans women throughout which just makes the story unclear.

They are unbelievably biased, along with 6music and Women's hour.

onceandneveragain · 07/06/2025 17:06

Skipthisbit · 07/06/2025 15:07

Oh come on Op ….. your false naivety is too much here. The entire post that you have quoted is a political statement by the delightful MAGA poster girl you so admire. She states “Gavin Newsom is a weak, spineless, morally bankrupt coward” Thats Gavin Newson the current governor of California. The state that has not only fought and maintained abortion rights but also refuses to hand over details of out of state women or the doctors that help them to the maga fascists. The state that is actively bringing legislation to try and counteract the awful cuts to Medicare and food stamps that disproportionately affect women. Riley Gaines is a despicable woman who has actively supported and campaigned for Donald Trump and Paul Rund (the governor of Kentucky) where abortion is now illegal unless the mother is at risk of imminent death.

Riley Gaines political views are part and parcel of the appalling MAGA ideology and the insidious movement that is trying to convince women that these horrors are on their side because “at least they know what a women is” whilst single-handedly taking women’s rights back to the dark ages. Ffs - they jut passed a bill that makes it much harder to vote if you are a married women as your ID has to match your birth certificate.

And she’s five foot fucking 8 not five foot five - a cheap and unnecessary shot by the multi Olympic champion who fought through racism and adversity her whole life - but another example of the continued maga “post truth” culture because a women is blonde, white and petite.

hang on....you're accepting she is "blonde white and petite" but in the same paragraph she's "five foot fucking 8"?
How on earth is 5'8 petite? It's several inches taller than average for a woman.

Skipthisbit · 07/06/2025 17:11

Never said she did or should. I used the stats provided by the NCCA but hey ho whatever.

I apologise profusely and will bow about so you all can continue to attack the multi Olympic medal winning African American gymnast (who didn’t even suggest that trans women should be allowed in women’s sports) who is an advocates and supports with time and money multiple women’s mental heath charities and is a leading voice for foster and adopted children having been one herself and continue your veneration of the marvellous Miss Gaines.

@Helleofabore
Your comment is actually is actually laughable! I function very well in real life thanks - I find it quite easy not to associate with far right activists that attend and make speeches at Trump rallies and actively advocate for anti-women policies on a national stage.

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 17:14

Skipthisbit · 07/06/2025 17:11

Never said she did or should. I used the stats provided by the NCCA but hey ho whatever.

I apologise profusely and will bow about so you all can continue to attack the multi Olympic medal winning African American gymnast (who didn’t even suggest that trans women should be allowed in women’s sports) who is an advocates and supports with time and money multiple women’s mental heath charities and is a leading voice for foster and adopted children having been one herself and continue your veneration of the marvellous Miss Gaines.

@Helleofabore
Your comment is actually is actually laughable! I function very well in real life thanks - I find it quite easy not to associate with far right activists that attend and make speeches at Trump rallies and actively advocate for anti-women policies on a national stage.

You sound absolutely fucking ridiculous.

WithSilverBells · 07/06/2025 17:15

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 17:14

You sound absolutely fucking ridiculous.

Yep

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 17:18

Riley Gaines is marvellous, I agree. She and I have very different political views but that isn’t why I’m supporting her, or criticising Biles’ fucking moronic comment, or your lame defence of it @Skipthisbit

but ciao anyway.

BundleBoogie · 07/06/2025 17:18

Skipthisbit · 07/06/2025 16:42

She doesn’t vote for a party that “I don’t approve of.”

She’s an active campaigning voice for the party - and specifically for the hard right element of that party - that is stripping away women’s rights across America. She’s already made clear her political intentions clear so for all you who laud her views - I hope you’ll be delighted when she achieves her ambitions. What a huge stride in feminism and the advancement of women’s rights that will be.

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Well she’s not going to be campaigning for the Democrats is she?

If you check the title and OP, this thread is still about Simone Biles vile attack on Riley, not a generalised critique of Riley’s (claimed by you) political views.

Would you rather she wasn’t campaigning to remove men from women’s sports? Who would pass your political purity test and have the courage and impetus to do this?

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