Am I naive in thinking that in a couple of years, if not sooner, this will all be behind us? A few court cases, people clear about the law, women's rights protected again??

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And yes the noisy TRA far fewer in number and sidelined as the sad fringe that are left as others move on.....

Or do others think it will pan out differently??

Nailed it.

No lesbian finds you attractive, and never will. I don't think I've read a thread you've been posting on before, but all I can say is you manage to combine a real persecution complex with an incredibly high opinion of yourself.

@raregoalsverge Nazi ideology holds (among other things) that sexist stereotypes are correct and true and that everyone must fulfil the expectations of the stereotypes for their birth-sex.

Nazis were obsessed with maintaining the 'purity' of a sex class defined by a biological essentialist view of them as womb bearers who had to be protected at all costs, and much of their propaganda revolved around the idea of the monstrous, degenerate Other invading and defiling this fragile, precious and sacred breeding resource.

They viciously punished people who dared to defy the sex classification placed upon them at birth. A sizeable contributing factor to this reactionary clampdown was the relatively permissive attitude of the preceding Weimar Republic under which the LGBT community had flourished. The Weimar government even issued people a rudimentary form of gender recognition certificate to stop them from being arrested for wearing clothing that defied stereotypical norms.

The Nazis stoked up hate amongst the student population of Berlin who raided and then burned the library of the Institute of Sexology which had been attempting to research, understand and help people who defied these norms.

That famous photo of books being flung on the fire at the plaza in Berlin during the first book burning ceremony? That's the library being burned there.

Do not advise Chris to go anywhere near schools, thanks!

I find it very hard to believe you’d be “deathly afraid” of meeting anyone here, or, indeed, any sex realist. Indeed, you might well have met some and not realised because - contrary to your oft-repeated belief - nobody here wants you to not exist, and nobody here disagrees with the fact that you should be able to live your life free from discrimination.

You know that.

Hahaha you’re hilarious. I’m from a very large family and I can promise you none of the youngsters below 25 believe in this nonsense, they find it totally cringey and embarrassing. It was a social contagion spread on SM, and now all you TRA’s have been out pissing in the streets and showing people your moobs, the youngsters won’t touch it with a barge pole, they don’t want to be associated with middle aged men with a fetish, because don’t kid yourself that they can’t see you for exactly what you are. In short, you’ve done our job for us.

And once the NHS has had to concede, and JKR’s fund has financed and won some high profile cases, they’ll be nothing left. If businesses don’t comply with the law they’ll be unable to obtain public liability insurance, so employers will toe the line, and people will once again be able to protect their children from this insidious, homophobic, misogynistic and regressive ideology.

I wasn't denying that nazis are bad. Yes nazis are bad, and transphobic, and horrible people.

What they really are not is "gender critical" - your description here is the opposite of what gender critical people believe.

Wont someone explain the cross dressing Nazis to me please?

Or were all those photos faked?

Hmm.

Imagine the fireworks if I said that about a non-trans lesbian poster on this board.

"well established" oh my... 😂

What he means is they haven’t really ‘seen him’ or ‘validated’ him, yada yada yada, blah blah blah.

according to a YouGov survey. I need to know what the questions were and who the respondents were.

Nazis were obsessed with maintaining the 'purity' of a sex class defined by a biological essentialist view of them as womb bearers who had to be protected at all costs, and much of their propaganda revolved around the idea of the monstrous, degenerate Other invading and defiling this fragile, precious and sacred breeding resource.

That doesn't mean the sex class didn't exist. How did the Nazis know which people to oppress in this way? Are you saying that if you walked into a room while the Nazis were coming, you wouldn't know which people to try to save from that fate? That instead you'd start telling the Nazis these people didn't exist, or that you'd become one of them if you wore a skirt, and that would somehow bamboozle them into leaving them alone out of confusion?

The oppression is precisely because women exist as a sex class, and when oppression is sex based, protections must be sex based too. Schindler and Hitler both knew what a Jew was, doesn't mean they were the same as each other.

As for the rest of it, with all the violence against people who dissented from the authoritarianism, I can't believe you don't see that mirrored in all the threats to rape, hang, stab, shoot and immolate people who refuse to say men are women. And did you notice these guys also seem to always know at which class of people to direct these threats?

Sure Jan.

Well, that makes no sense, does it? To make it as simple as possible, lesbians only find women sexually attractive. You're a man, so no lesbian will ever find you attractive.

I hope this is clear enough for you to understand.

Glad to be entertaining!

My extended family didn't teach the youngest generation to hold trans-negative views, so the under 25's are very chill and extremely supportive toward trans people.

We're a little worried about one young lad who is quite impressionable and vulnerable to incel/alt-right culture which goes hand in hand with transphobia, and which some of the people he knows at school occasionally veer concerningly towards. Hopefully he'll find better friends who don't have parents that imprint that kind of awfulness on their children!

By definition you can't be a lesbian if you find a male attractive.

Males who take hormones or have had cosmetic surgery, remain males.

How do you know they asked actual biological women who are lesbians that question, and not some blokes who ‘identify as lesbians’, because those two groups are VERY different?

Transcels don't exist.

You heard it from Butters first.

I wasn’t responding to you.

A "non trans lesbian" (fuck me sideways) is a woman solely attracted to women. In other words, just a lesbian.

That poster was saying that no lesbian would be attracted to you, because by definition, a lesbian is not attracted to any man.

You'd be saying this person was incapable of attracting anyone. That poster was saying that you are incapable of attracting anyone who is attracted only to women, because you're a man.

You've got to stop thinking that we can't see through this kind of ridiculous Newspeak, or that we can't articulate what's wrong with it.

My extended family didn't teach the youngest generation to hold trans-negative views, so the under 25's are very chill and extremely supportive toward trans people.

But I thought it was young people leading the way against the awful oppressive older generation and their GC views, now you tell us the young people have to be taught by the older generation not to be "trans-negative". Can you not remember the plot from one post to the next?

The only plot he can remember is the one he’s lost.

I think @Christinapple and @ButterflyHatched are the same man.

@ThatCyanCat As for the rest of it, with all the violence against people who dissented from the authoritarianism, I can't believe you don't see that mirrored in all the threats to rape, hang, stab, shoot and immolate people who refuse to say men are women. And did you notice these guys also seem to always know at which class of people to direct these threats?

I decry any incitement to violence regardless of the inciter's sex at birth or gender identity.

I can't speak for those people any more than you can speak for the actions of Nicola Murray or Neo-Nazis who have been documented in the press as being present at GC rallies.