Banned from breastfeeding group for objecting to males breastfeeding

[snickerdoodle1990]

Hi everyone,

I gave birth a few months ago and had some breastfeeding difficulties, so joined a local breastfeeding support group in my city. It’s basically a place to go for support with feeding, plus meet other mums/have a cuppa and biscuit etc. They also have a FB group. It’s become a nice, friendly place to go once every couple of weeks.

Recently, a trans-woman (male) has joined the group asking for support because their wife has not long had a baby and the trans-woman is wishing to breastfeed too, apparently through use of hormones and domperidone (?) to stimulate supply (I did not realise this was possible at all)

I really really object to this person being present in a group of women who are seeking breastfeeding support, trying to come together in their breastfeeding experience and also revealing themselves intimately

I told the group leader my concerns and she basically told me to shove it - said that the group is a safe space for everyone and they support all who wish to breastfeed and that I shouldn’t come back because I am a bigot

I am horrified as are the other women, where do we all stand and what would you do?

@Velmy Are you able to spell out for me how it is that you see this trans woman as more vulnerable than the other women in the group?
If it's obvious to you I'm happy for you to talk to me like I'm stupid. I cannot see it, but I'm curious to know what you can see that I'm missing.

It won’t.
(I say that as a scientist.)

I was the child

@Blueskies25 so no feeling on the matter? What exactly though is changing in terms of human biology? Are we evolving as a species into a monomorphic organism?

You don’t know this as not enough research has been done in this area, new medications are being developed and improved upon all the time

No one knows the extent of the possibilities

🙄

What specific matter are you referring to, I have voiced my opinion many times on this thread

Depending on the medical situation of the trans woman, in this milk there might be: testosterone, testosterone blocking drugs, synthetic oestrogen (I have no idea whether the levels are similar to those of a post-partum woman or higher), in addition to the drugs used to induce lactation.

Differently from what said by one poster somewhere in the thread, substances in our blood will pass into the milk. If you look into the medicines you have at home, many will say ask your doctor or pharmacist if you are breastfeeding.

It is a single sex group. It was advertised specifically for mothers. That makes it single sex.

So your trans mother tried to breast feed you and abused you?

So no one knows but until we do know it’s perfectly fine for transwomen to attempt to breastfeed a baby and take up space within support groups when they cannot (and will not be able to) successfully produce enough secretion in volume never mind of quality to nourish the baby.

Babies (and women) are not emotional support animals for transwomen

The specific matter of men irrespective of how they identify taking drugs to attempt to breast feed a baby. If it’s such a good idea and centres the well-being of the child why are we not encouraging all men to do it?

I’ve seen other posters on here with a lack of empathy and understanding, but you’re quite chilling…

So do you acknowledge that it’s not yet a possibility?

They can attend any groups that are open to having to having trans women attend, that’s basically it

But they are not just attending. They are claiming to want to feed the child and are looking to this group for help in doing so.

From what you’ve said so far I’m very sure I have a better understanding than you do in this field.

So, no, men in general will not all be encouraged to breastfeed their children in the near future. In case that’s in any doubt.

Nonsense, there is no way you could possibly know what is ahead of us as no one does

There’s a lot of nonsense being spouted, that’s for sure, but not by me 😉

@Helloworlditsmeagain I hope you’re ok. The children of trans parents and the damage done to them are so easy to ignore and pretend they don’t exist…Unless they are being wheeled out as props. I hope you have support now and some way of coping with your abuse. I think there is a group online to support children of trans parents and help each other make sense the unique and deeply damaging abuse they encountered. Just wishing you love and a brighter future.

But you agree that it is “ahead of us” so not in the here and now? So why pander to a man who is in the here and now, where it’s not possible to ‘breastfeed’ in a way that nourishes the baby? What possible benefit would that have for the baby and their mother who is actually capable of feeding the child?

I think you think more highly of yourself than I do of you 😂
So we can agree to disagree on that

Even in what feels like dystopian times, the only people wanting to promote men breastfeeding babies are men with a fetish and the organisations that centre them
The rest of society is clear that babies are not to be used by these men for their own narcissistic purposes. Safeguarding children should be the priority - although judging by your awful response to a poster upthread, it seems safeguarding children may not be on your radar

@MrsOvertonsWindow spot on as usual.
@Helloworlditsmeagain there is a grassroots group called children of ntransitioners.org if you are interested in contacted them

There is a clear troll on this thread, spouting rubbish and being as offensive to women as possible. Always a good idea not to feed trolls.

sorry @Helloworlditsmeagain I spelt link wrong it's
childrenoftransitioners.org