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I'm not sure Jo Maugham is quite well

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ArabellaScott · 01/05/2025 20:37

https://goodlawproject.org/we-have-been-given-a-huge-responsibility/

He's taking all your hundreds of thousands of pounds, but he can't tell you what he's doing with it cause seckrit.

And he knows all the best seckrit people who are humungosly good lawyers.

And he's got a skeleton key to the morals of the universe! By the power of Transkull!

‘We have been given a huge responsibility’ | Good Law Project

A message from our executive director, Jolyon Maugham, to the trans community.

https://goodlawproject.org/we-have-been-given-a-huge-responsibility/

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Lark1ane · 12/05/2025 21:31

I keep reading bigender as Big Ender.
Perhaps I could join up? My large arse is a thing of wonder.

WarriorN · 13/05/2025 07:09

Hoping gen alpha see all this as total bs

borntobequiet · 13/05/2025 07:26

Lark1ane · 12/05/2025 21:31

I keep reading bigender as Big Ender.
Perhaps I could join up? My large arse is a thing of wonder.

So do I, and all this ridiculous nonsense is like something imagined by Swift to illustrate the foolishness of the human race. It’s beyond parody.

fromorbit · 13/05/2025 08:12

Contributions to the crowdfunders have slowed down it is now at 520,016.63 gaining only 20,000 in last week.

One of the funds is pay for 4 staff. What will they do? In reality they will be fighting for funds from those that go to other trans based charities like Stonewall. Probably do a bunch of publicity I guess.

What legal cases can they do?

Meanwhile we wait to see how GLP will challenge the supreme court decision with all that money. Their usual tactic is to launch a meaningless case which gets dismissed so they can claim they have done something. Not even clear how they can do that.

As the Labour pain blog points out 500 k is a a lot of money. You should get something for that.
https://labourpainsblog.com/

A lot of successful pro-biology cases have won with way less than that.

It is amazing how successful the grift has been, but could this be the point where GLP finally gets found out?

Labour Pains

A policy minion's random thoughts on workers' rights, equality, justice, disability, The Smiths, and other stuff.

https://labourpainsblog.com

SinnerBoy · 13/05/2025 11:36

SionnachRuadh · Yesterday 17:08

I mean nobody is going to confuse Jolyon with He-Man, except maybe Jolyon in his own mind

Oh I don't know, there are definite parallels between them. The end of programme message was always:

"Remember, kids - violence is bad and solves nothing! Except when it me being violent, because my violence is good, cos I'm a good guy!"

"Remember, girls words are literal violence and solve nothing! Let Sarah punch Terfetor and her evil henchterfs in the face! Sarah's a good girl!"

Maaate · 13/05/2025 19:11

He's teamed up with a multi-national.

And I thought it was the Terfs that were being bankrolled by billionaires...

SionnachRuadh · 13/05/2025 19:37

Maaate · 13/05/2025 19:11

He's teamed up with a multi-national.

And I thought it was the Terfs that were being bankrolled by billionaires...

"Sticking it to The Man" (sponsored by Unilever)

TheOtherRaven · 13/05/2025 20:22

WarriorN · 13/05/2025 07:09

Hoping gen alpha see all this as total bs

S'okay, they've evolved on from talking total bollocks and redefining all words, to no one understanding a word they say.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 14/05/2025 08:35

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2025 17:26

NPR's approval and viewing ratings are at an all time low because of their built in Democrat bias, and bias to the leftier side of the Dems at that. Won't be long until it folds imho...the rating decline speaks for itself.

In general I am very suspicious of this modern notion, constantly foisted upon our youth by all media, that 'being your authentic self' is the highest and greatest aspiration to which one should aim in life.

Humans are social animals and we (still, just about) live in a society. So is it really right that we present a career of navel gazing and self-obsession, dressed up as 'authenticity', to be the highest goal to which one must aspire? What about learning how to be a useful member of society, a kind friend, a selfless colleague, a team player? Locke, Mill, Hume, Kierkegaard? Even (to get really unfashionable) the deeply selfless and difficult moral challenge to 'love thy neighbour as thyself'?

I dunno. Sorry to get dark folks but trans madness is the direct offspring of our post-1960s socially sanctioned obsession with the self. I'm not entirely sure it's doing us any good.

SinnerBoy · 14/05/2025 10:13

SionnachRuadh · Yesterday 19:37

"Sticking it to The Man" (sponsored by Unilever)

Bloody brilliant!

😆

DeanElderberry · 14/05/2025 12:41

Loving your neighbour as yourself includes loving yourself, and that includes all the inconvenient bits, not just the character and action defects you know better than anyone, but also that aching lumpy hairy smelly body 'yourself' exists in.

DeanElderberry · 14/05/2025 14:42

And 'love' doesn't mean an emotional gush, it doesn't even mean liking, it means respecting, accepting, treating with kindness, supplying what is needed.

TheOtherRaven · 14/05/2025 17:22

GiveMeSpanakopita · 14/05/2025 08:35

NPR's approval and viewing ratings are at an all time low because of their built in Democrat bias, and bias to the leftier side of the Dems at that. Won't be long until it folds imho...the rating decline speaks for itself.

In general I am very suspicious of this modern notion, constantly foisted upon our youth by all media, that 'being your authentic self' is the highest and greatest aspiration to which one should aim in life.

Humans are social animals and we (still, just about) live in a society. So is it really right that we present a career of navel gazing and self-obsession, dressed up as 'authenticity', to be the highest goal to which one must aspire? What about learning how to be a useful member of society, a kind friend, a selfless colleague, a team player? Locke, Mill, Hume, Kierkegaard? Even (to get really unfashionable) the deeply selfless and difficult moral challenge to 'love thy neighbour as thyself'?

I dunno. Sorry to get dark folks but trans madness is the direct offspring of our post-1960s socially sanctioned obsession with the self. I'm not entirely sure it's doing us any good.

That.

The more anxiety supporting stuff hits the media and the more awareness is around, the more anxious everybody gets: just one example.

And I am deeply suspicious of anyone who says they 'love x people'... people are not kittens or chocolate, it's a belittling thing that dehumanises and patronises: that group of people are people like anyone else and some of them you'd find wonderful, most you'd find fine and a few you couldn't stand.

This is the only civil rights movement that has ever wanted this head patting infantilising status. Say 'I love disabled people!' or 'I love Asian people!' and you'd get told very sharply to get it together.

WarriorN · 14/05/2025 18:29

@GiveMeSpanakopitaabsolutely right.

The ‘post 60s socially sanctioned obsession with the self’ plus the internet has been a monumental disaster for so many aspects of mental health as well as so many other aspects of just daily life.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 15/05/2025 14:24

DeanElderberry · 14/05/2025 14:42

And 'love' doesn't mean an emotional gush, it doesn't even mean liking, it means respecting, accepting, treating with kindness, supplying what is needed.

The Greek word used in NT is agape which went through many shades of meaning from Homer on but by the time we get to Koine Greek meant unconditional and sacrificial love (Liddell & Scott). This interpretation is backed up by the fact that the word agape is used in the NT for the love God gives humanity and the reciprocal love of humans for God. It is the same word used in the context of Jesus sacrificing himself for humankind.

Your translation would be closer to the Greek word philia which is used in the NT for brotherly/friend/comradely love, but NOT in the injunction to love thy neighbour as thyself. We see it commonly used in the letters of St Paul referring to other church members for example.

Agape is translated in the KJV as 'charity' which is a shame because charity has a different meaning in the modern age.

This is why the injunction to love thy neighbour as thyself is so difficult and very, very few Christians could ever do it, imho. I certainly can't. It's nothing to do with loving yourself and everything to do with unconditional and sacrificial love for another, EVEN AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S NOTHING IN IT FOR YOU.

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