Interim guidance from EHRC is out

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https://x.com/HeadWarriorTWM/status/1915853104421167211?t=qbUrcHVdtPyqVB1uZ5depA&s=19

“Cheering and gloating”

Like being told “enjoy your erasure.” Hmmm?

But luckily you can move between those constellations of statistically linked attributes with drugs and surgery, yay (please someone make it make sense).

The GRA has no impact on passports or driving licenses. My passport was reissued many, many years before I was eligible for a GRC. I have never had a male-registered driving license.

It afforded us privacy against disclosure and allowed us to amend birth certificates, die in dignity and marry. The marriage part is thankfully irrelevant now. The other three parts are still extant. It now does not function in its intended capacity of allowing us to be genuinely and earnestly treated as legally female or male, and the privacy protections are outright breached as soon as we use public or workplace single sex facilities.

Check out this fine piece of nonsense refuting the SC ruling from the trans uk subreddit, please note his only other post seems to be him moaning that he is unable to orgasm anally, he truly is the voice of the trans identified male 😂

There is a new wail of fury post from these guys every five minutes at the moment.
I Wrote An Article Responding to Anti Trans Laws and Rhetoric : r/transgenderUK

@ButterflyHatched, I asked this question of the OP on another thread who sounded very like you & didn’t get an answer.

You both seem to think that some of you should still be allowed to use women’s spaces. On a practical, day to day basis, how would that work? Where would the boundary be - the amount of surgery? How well someone passes? And how would it be enforced?

We know it doesn’t come down to honour or good faith. I’m genuinely curious about this.

Or do I have it wrong and you think all males should be allowed into women’s spaces on a self-ID basis?

Cheering and gloating?

Like using JK Rowling as some misogynistic gotcha for supposedly passing as I have seen some male tweeters posting this past week?

I mean, the hypocrisy is stark with some people.

“Privacy against disclosure” - is this what you call advising young people to lie about their sex rather than gain informed consent for sexual activity?

Forgive me if I don’t believe for a second you’ll give up using women’s single sex spaces.

I transitioned more than a decade before the Equality Act existed, when trans people did not have legal recognition through the GRA, but were still allowed to use single sex facilities that best suited us.

Who gave you the permission to use the facilities of the opposite sex?

Was it in a work situation? Did the management call all women together and tell them that a man was proposing to transition, he wasn't to be discriminated against and there is a question of which loo he will use. Were they asked if they minded, with the veiled threat that no one could say they did, or was it presented as a fait accompli - he will use the women's loos and you will put up with it.

I suspect it was the latter. I would have been narked seeing you go into a woman's loo but as long as you nipped in, relieved yourself, washed your hands and nipped out, I would have let it go. This might well not have been the case for a woman who had been raped or sexually assaulted, had a melt down and also spends nights crying over the experience. Did you ever think of that? I would suspect not.

Your complaint is not with women as a class - it lies with those people who told you, you could change sex, and it lies with trans activists who being given an inch haven't taken a mile, but taken ten thousand miles and are now ranting and raving.

So please take your complaints to them.

Oh, like sex by deception?

Good question! Because boundaries do seem to be somewhat of an issue with some of the male people who are demanding they should have access to female single sex spaces. And consent is a huge part of that, as we know.

Grainger as in ‘worthy of respect in a democratic society’?

Well, that's quite a thing.

It's a bit like David Renton's recent "terfs are a bit like suffragettes who went on to support Mosley" piece, if it were rewritten by an angry teenager who had knocked back one too many energy drinks.

It afforded us privacy against disclosure

Your sex is not private, nor should it be. The idea that helping trans people should involve hiding their sex, rather than accepting them as they are, comes from a really regressive mid-20th century concept of gender roles.

Going down that path is as if we'd given gay people the right to marry in secret.

DARVO

How are you "outing yourself" by quietly and discreetly using a single occupancy unisex facility?

And quite frankly the hyperbole you are coming out with is utterly self focused and seems to have no wider awareness of the issue of males in female only spaces. You seem to have no awareness of what it feels ike when the shoe is on the other foot.

I have no sympathy for anyone who attempts to hide an attribute that is strongly correlated with harming those who do not share that attribute.

The very concept that when sex matters, it can be hidden by some people is the very opposite of progressive. It is very regressive and it is harmful.

I think the authors of the EA2010 recognised this.

This is an odd take even for you. GnRH Agonists aren't a 'cocktail of drugs'.

We already know you're a bioessentialist but you're sounding like an antivaxxer or anti-pharmacutical puritan here. Very odd thing to say.

@ButterflyHatched if you are taking several drugs, colloquial term is a cocktail of drugs. I sure you’ll have heard the term before,,what with you being so old and all. .

I hope @ButterflyHatchedcan reframe his trauma.

The outpourings of pure emotional manipulation that we have seen from extreme transgender activists online since this ruling has been worrisome.

Firstly, weren't we told that they fully accepted their sex? That it was ridiculous to say that any person who had a transgender identity would deny their sex? And yet, how often has this been proven false even in the past few months,

But now we are seeing a massive emotional outpouring over social media and at protests. And I think these people genuinely think that it works. Maybe they did just this to coerce getting what they wanted from others in the past.

Either way, we know that inadequate mental health support was given by the gender clinics in the UK. I think that the NHS has so much to answer for. But also those extreme transgender activists who influenced the health care to where it is now in the UK. Imagine if even approaching adequate mental health care was given to help people to be resilient to the realities of their world.

But instead, we have what we are seeing across the internet and beyond.

So, let me get this right

Man uses women's toilets for decades.

Same man now complains about 'women' being forced to share toilets with men.

🤔

Maybe the answer is for trans allies of the male sex to share toilets trips with upset transwomen?

"But now we are seeing a massive emotional outpouring over social media and at protests. And I think these people genuinely think that it works. Maybe they did just this to coerce getting what they wanted from others in the past."

The rage too is certainly helping to show why women need single sex spaces and provisions. I certainly don't want to encounter such manipulative, boundary-crossing, and unstable violent men in places where I least expect their presence.

Every post is just, "me me me me me can we talk about ME some more what about MEEEEE" isn't it?

No acknowledgement that the rest of us are human at all.

I'm sure LOJ, the fox-botherer, Billy Bragg, David Tennant, and all their mates could come up with a rota.

Here here. It's obfuscation.