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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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IBelieveinSomething · 24/04/2025 22:16

I now have educated myself. And i still am not and never have been transphobic. But i object strongly to an ideology that is misogynistic.

Gettingbysomehow · 24/04/2025 22:16

They lost me at dignity and respect. The sight of men with enormous fake breasts straining to escape an extremely tight bikini top with a penis accessory in that parade. Dignity and respect were not my first thought.

JasmineAllen · 24/04/2025 22:16

That letter has got to be satire surely, if only for the names. Who on God's Green earth is called Fable Tales 😂

TheOtherRaven · 24/04/2025 22:18

If it's open season on Santa Claus lists to the British govt women can probably do better than that.

I demand free gin and a new Strike book monthly, better weather or else , absolute veto on any decisions made ever by the cabinet that I don't particularly like, to be two inches taller and twenty years younger and my genetics repaired immediately please because being disabled is absolutely unacceptable and annoying and it's appalling no one has been around to sort this out. I also demand that grumpy middle aged women also get their own MPs and get to brief them personally having selected them only from a pool of grumpy middle aged women. And I declare an end to Tuesdays.

IBelieveinSomething · 24/04/2025 22:19

I love that the Supreme Court has excluded men from female spaces sports etc. I hope beyond hope that these absolute idiots cannot reverse it.

RedToothBrush · 24/04/2025 22:20

TheOtherRaven · 24/04/2025 22:18

If it's open season on Santa Claus lists to the British govt women can probably do better than that.

I demand free gin and a new Strike book monthly, better weather or else , absolute veto on any decisions made ever by the cabinet that I don't particularly like, to be two inches taller and twenty years younger and my genetics repaired immediately please because being disabled is absolutely unacceptable and annoying and it's appalling no one has been around to sort this out. I also demand that grumpy middle aged women also get their own MPs and get to brief them personally having selected them only from a pool of grumpy middle aged women. And I declare an end to Tuesdays.

Wednesdays surely. Not Tuesdays.

crackedpaint · 24/04/2025 22:24

Waitinggame42023 · 24/04/2025 21:59

  • Extension of available gender affirming treatments available on the NHS, including but not limited to:
  • Breast augmentation where HRT doesn’t provide sufficient growth.
  • 200 hours of electrolysis
  • Facial surgery where desired
  • Any gender non-conforming surgeries

And yet women all over the country are refused treatments like electrolysis for hormone imbalances, PCOS etc. So a man's demands to fake a feminine image trump corrective treatment for women.

And couples all over the country are being denied fertility treatment as recommended in NICE guidelines. But no, let's fund these twisted desires and bratty demands.

I clearly recall "Abigail" Thorn of Philosophy Tube once posting that it was a travesty that "women" like him were unable to get the HRT they so desperately needed to survive while old women who merely wanted it could get it easily which isn't even true but it was obvious his view was that men should be prioritised for HRT over menopausal women.

I've also heard transwomen say that actual women on HRT for menopause use it as "gender affirming care" because without out it we'd become men.

nailslikeknives · 24/04/2025 22:24

There was a veiled threat if they don’t get their own way:

“As a community we are no longer prepared to limit ourselves to discussion on the issues affecting us - issues that have been too long ignored by Governments and abusive political parties who believe they can ride roughshod over our lives.”

What’s next if the authors don’t want to limit themselves to discussion?

borntobequiet · 24/04/2025 22:27

ClairDeLaLune · 24/04/2025 21:57

Why hasn’t Hugh Janus signed it?

Too far up his own arse.

LegoTherapy · 24/04/2025 22:27

Wow. That’s quite a list. Do they have a magic money tree lined up for all this when people are dying due to the state of the NHS? 18 week wait-in most people’s dreams.

Ellie56 · 24/04/2025 22:31

yourhairiswinterfire · 24/04/2025 20:36

It's hilarious.

Dear Members of Parliament,
Everything in our Solar System is transphobic.
Take everyone else's rights and protections away immediately.
And give us free tits.
Regards,
The entitled male supremacists Aggrieved.

Get it right.

Give us free big tits.

Grin Grin

FOJN · 24/04/2025 22:32

What’s next if the authors don’t want to limit themselves to discussion?

Hopefully deportation. Ryan is a world renowned cyber security expert (according to him) from California. He hopped over in 2019 and had a hissy fit on arrival because his NB status was not recognised by UK law. We need to send him back for
de-radicalisation.

Grammarnut · 24/04/2025 22:32

What rights have they lost? They have the same ones that they had on 15th April. They had no right to those belonging to women.

IBelieveinSomething · 24/04/2025 22:34

Why can all of us see this so clearly and an entire large section of society can’t? We are apparently not ‘being kind’. Why can they not see?

ChateauMargaux · 24/04/2025 22:35

Maybe we can demand equality:

We demand immediate equal representation in parliament and all levels of government, on the board of all public and privately listed companies, in the judicial system and all other places where decisions are made.

We demand equal access to wealth, at all levels of society. The government will implement laws to redistribute wealth, property ownership and earnings, reducing the disparity of lifetime earnings between males and females due to structural inequalities in our society...

Who will write the rest of our demands?

RedToothBrush · 24/04/2025 22:45

FOJN · 24/04/2025 22:32

What’s next if the authors don’t want to limit themselves to discussion?

Hopefully deportation. Ryan is a world renowned cyber security expert (according to him) from California. He hopped over in 2019 and had a hissy fit on arrival because his NB status was not recognised by UK law. We need to send him back for
de-radicalisation.

Well if the UK is no longer safe, it'd be better for him to hide in a blue state.

Remind me, why he's so desperate to move to a country which persecutes and kills so many trans people by the mere lift of an eyebrow...

SidewaysOtter · 24/04/2025 22:53

RedToothBrush · 24/04/2025 22:20

Wednesdays surely. Not Tuesdays.

God, no. Thursdays. Thursdays can do one. I also demand free Chablis, all trousers to be suitable in length for short people, a ban on stickers on apples, 320 days holiday a year and for it to be legal to poke people in the eye if they try to queue jump at the Waitrose deli counter #nodebate

JasmineAllen · 24/04/2025 22:55

I've also heard transwomen say that actual women on HRT for menopause use it as "gender affirming care" because without out it we'd become men.

Yes, it's a well known fact all women over 55 turn into men and their marriages become single sex partnerships. My husband was a bit unsure at first but he's loving the extra manly comradery he now gets from newly male me 😂

Why are these people so ill informed. Are they uneducated or just wilfully simple?

SidewaysOtter · 24/04/2025 22:56

Why are these people so ill informed. Are they uneducated or just wilfully simple?

I fear it’s an unfortunate mix of both.

spannasaurus · 24/04/2025 22:59

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 24/04/2025 20:17

LMFAO.

Fable tales?! Parody surely?

There's someone with that name on github. Profile picture suggests they might be the type of person who would sign that letter

NotBadConsidering · 24/04/2025 23:02

a ban on stickers on apples

Finally someone focusing on the real issues. I look forward to the end of the oppression of one single apple that is left in the fruit bowl covered in 20 apple stickers because oppressors like my DC can’t seem to find the bin for them.

Fordian · 24/04/2025 23:17

I was on r/transgenderuk, where this garbage was promoted, because it really gives you the temperature of the ‘opposition’.

Bloody hell, it’s like Y9 on there!

Though any and all suggestion that they come across like petulant 14 year olds gets you banned, I genuinely tried to help some try and frame their position coherently, with some balance and maturity, that they were making things worse for themselves via idiocy like Ryan’s tantrum, now being ridiculed all over SM.

But no, the sanctity of that echo chamber remains pure, and more 20 year olds with the emotional maturity of an adolescent with be crying and shaking themselves to sleep, cuddling a stuffed toy shark, tonight.

It is SUCH a mental health condition.

CeaselesslyIntoThePast · 24/04/2025 23:30

They should have done the old ‘make this sound more professional’ trick on GPT first.

YesYesAllGood · 24/04/2025 23:36

ArabellaScott · 24/04/2025 20:54

Actually, I think you're all gravely misunderestimating the power and persuasion of this letter. I, for one, am very much hoping it isn't shared too widely, because there's a very real risk it could undermine everything we've been fighting for.

Please, whatever you do, don't let it be circulated any further than it's already gone. And for God'sake don't let The Good Law project get hold of it. Or X. Or anyone with a.large platform.

You may mock, but if you weren't blinded by reason and critical thinking you'd possibly grasp the implications.

I kind of get what you mean. I read the whole thing, alternating between stifling hysterical giggles and abject horror that there are people out there who actually believe this stuff is reasonable.