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lcakethereforeIam · 24/04/2025 20:13

These folx are insane. It's actually worrying. They don't make threats but they are implied rather than explicit, they're not that stupid. However, the reference to the 'peaceful' protest in particular, it suggests they're prepared to be less peaceful.

I suspect we'll see sit ins, vandalism of and dirty protests in women's SSS. They're so petulant. A 'if I can't have them, then no 'cis' woman can either' campaign.

You'd think Ryan would have got used to losing.

bigboykitty · 24/04/2025 20:15

Now come on people, this is satire, surely? Which one of you wrote it? It's very funny.

AnneLovesGilbert · 24/04/2025 20:15

I too thought it was a parody until the end. Are we absolutely sure it isn’t…?

And if not what are they threatening when they don’t get what they want?

I do wonder how the politicians, journos and commentators still wedded to #bekind and bleating about compassion and both sides will react if things get even uglier and more obvious.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 24/04/2025 20:17

LMFAO.

Fable tales?! Parody surely?

borntobequiet · 24/04/2025 20:19

Blimey. That’s a lot of bullet points. I particularly liked

  • Breast augmentation where HRT doesn’t provide sufficient growth.

Poor dears.

AnSolas · 24/04/2025 20:22

SigourneyHoward · 24/04/2025 19:19

What the heck is the 'ban cosmetic surgery on gentials of intersex babies' and can anyone understand the 'creation of a new specific class of MP for minority groups' - do they mean a Minister or each parliamentary seat as a bog standard MP and one voted on by minority groups??

'ban cosmetic surgery on gentials of intersex babies'

There was an infamous historical case where a baby (one of twin boys?) was operated on to fix his urethra and they botched the surgey and further surgery to remove his testicles and create a female look was the recomended. So "sex change"/ "transed" by surgery. The boy was raised as a girl and was abused by the doctor (including i think CSA) through out his (their) childhood basicly used as a human guinea pig(s) to test the nature over nurture theories of the 60s (?) / 70s (?)

Similar if a baby had DSD the aim was to create a "normal" look as well as solve a medical need by surgery. It was not possible to create a penis and the same type of cosmetic sex change would have been done.

The current policy in the UK is I think to recomend interventions to do the least amount of surgery based only on medical need. But medical need would be case by case so depending on the doctor/team involved.

SternJoyousBee · 24/04/2025 20:24

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Gattopardo · 24/04/2025 20:24

@AnneLovesGilbert definitely getting parody or inauthentic vibes. It’s just too whack for it to be real.

crumpet · 24/04/2025 20:29

One of the best temper tantrums I have seen in a while.

zanahoria · 24/04/2025 20:35

I hope they send the original written in orange crayon to Parliament

Kitte321 · 24/04/2025 20:36

So the ENTiRE world and everyone in it has to change in order to prioritise the rights of trans people.
Trans people’s right to treatment on the NHS, gender neutral terms, asylum, single sex spaces, cosmetic procedures, and access to elite sport must trump the rights of ALL others and their needs put to the front of the (very long) queue. Whilst also agreeing to just ‘forget’ freedom of speech, freedom of the press and the rule of law.
okay boys. Sounds fair 👍

yourhairiswinterfire · 24/04/2025 20:36

It's hilarious.

Dear Members of Parliament,
Everything in our Solar System is transphobic.
Take everyone else's rights and protections away immediately.
And give us free tits.
Regards,
The entitled male supremacists Aggrieved.

AnSolas · 24/04/2025 20:36

RedToothBrush · 24/04/2025 19:37

I would love to know in what way it's illegitimate!!! And how the Cass Review is fraudulent!

Good luck to them.

I have to say, thanks OP that's given me a right good chuckle.

But ..but ... but ...

An INDEPENDENT .... with a finding of fraud at the end 🤪

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 24/04/2025 20:38

So, so much madness.

Since when did wanting to protect your group's hard-won sex-based rights make you a 'hate group'; but a group wanting to take those rights from you, so that they can add them on to their own (already equivalent) rights - meaning that they have both lots of rights and you are left with none - is somehow not a hate group?!?!

zanahoria · 24/04/2025 20:41

"Original list of demands by Ryan Castellucci "

This is them

An American who wanted to be formally recognised as non-binary in the UK has been told by the Court of Appeal their gender identity does not legally exist in this country.
Ryan Castellucci previously lost a High Court challenge to have their gender recorded as non-binary on a gender recognition certificate - a document which changes someone's legal sex - after moving to the UK in 2019.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyve4m79e6lo

About

Ryan Castellucci is a professional computer security researcher with a background in networks, applied cryptography, programming, and Linux.

https://rya.nc/about.html

backslashruby · 24/04/2025 20:42

Bitterly disappointed that Mumsnet wasn't on their naughty list. We're obviously not terfing properly.

AnSolas · 24/04/2025 20:43

Helleofabore · 24/04/2025 19:59

Oh yay!!

”Addition of restrictions to the protected characteristic of ‘Religion and Belief’ to ensure that this avenue can never be used to strip other protected characteristics of rights ever again.

Brilliant! More evidence that they know very well there is no biological markers of any kind in common for having a transgender identity. I look forward to the ludicrous arguments we see on MN by some people stopping.

But .....ta da !!

they are going to give each minority (Faith and Belief fall in here ) group special MPs👏👏👏

Ermmmmm.

who will out vote their MPs🙈🤣

SternJoyousBee · 24/04/2025 20:46

letter was TLDR it all

they are not going to win anyone over with their demands 😂

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/04/2025 20:46

The author of that is clearly mentally unwell.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/04/2025 20:47

zanahoria · 24/04/2025 20:41

"Original list of demands by Ryan Castellucci "

This is them

An American who wanted to be formally recognised as non-binary in the UK has been told by the Court of Appeal their gender identity does not legally exist in this country.
Ryan Castellucci previously lost a High Court challenge to have their gender recorded as non-binary on a gender recognition certificate - a document which changes someone's legal sex - after moving to the UK in 2019.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyve4m79e6lo

Christ, why can't these tedious Americans just stop meddling?

Go back to the States if you think UK law is so transphobic.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 24/04/2025 20:48

Where has the ludicrous birth certificate demand come from? Removing 'mother' and 'father' indeed?!

This reminds me of Freddy McConnell's legal action for the right to be registered as the father of the baby to whom Freddy gave birth. The birth certificate is about and for the baby, not you.

This really has to be stretching Main Character Syndrome to its very limits.

Have I misunderstood or can they really be so arrogant that they want nobody to have the right to a BC with the obvious very basic information on it - and also stifling people for all generations to come who are researching their family history and maybe needing essential gene-related health information - just because they are in favour of blurring the lines between male and female, man and woman, mother and father for their own minority agenda?

Talkinpeace · 24/04/2025 20:53

Isn't it glorious

the only thing better will be the live stage reading of Mermaids v LGBA

popcorn shares are rocketing

ArabellaScott · 24/04/2025 20:54

Actually, I think you're all gravely misunderestimating the power and persuasion of this letter. I, for one, am very much hoping it isn't shared too widely, because there's a very real risk it could undermine everything we've been fighting for.

Please, whatever you do, don't let it be circulated any further than it's already gone. And for God'sake don't let The Good Law project get hold of it. Or X. Or anyone with a.large platform.

You may mock, but if you weren't blinded by reason and critical thinking you'd possibly grasp the implications.

AcquadiP · 24/04/2025 20:57

🥱