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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Womans Hour Wed 23rd April.

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impossibletoday · 22/04/2025 20:29

Apparently the women from FWS will be on.....

https://x.com/millihill/status/1914732862894694516?t=dVRYwM118BO_24mO21-05g&s=19

https://x.com/millihill/status/1914732862894694516?s=19&t=dVRYwM118BO_24mO21-05g

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ViolasandViolets · 23/04/2025 23:46

NotAtMyAge · 23/04/2025 22:42

I honestly can't believe Clare didn't thank Susan, but the interviewer isn't the person who edits the recording. We simply can't know what else was said and I think disagreeing about this actually takes attention away from just how good Susan's answers were.

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It matters because it is another indication of bias.

murasaki · 23/04/2025 23:50

Panama2 · 23/04/2025 13:55

I am nearly 70:and is is so disheartening to see how easily women have been pushed to the side, our rights, our very real concerns eroded and ignored mainly by biological males who believe they are female who show no empathy and have threatened violence. All these years of fighting for equality reduced in the blink of an eye. How is it that we are 51% of the population and have been ignored and insulted for standing up for ourselves. Even now we are expected to show understanding and kindness to a group that have nothing but hate for women at the same time insisting they are in fact women. No women would threaten another women with rape but this is what we have been subjected to.

The fight is real

My 77 year old mother, who head butted more glass ceilings, (and broke a few) than these pampered idiots have had hot dinners, has been raging for years, and was delighted last Wednesday.

Floisme · 24/04/2025 06:33

I’d still really love to know what the usual presenters were doing that was so pressing that they couldn’t find the time to fit in a pre-recorded interview. You’d have thought any half decent journalist would have killed to present a story like this, whether they agreed with FWS or not.

NoFineBalance · 24/04/2025 08:04

Has anything changed in the BBC off the back of Stephen Nolan's report on Stonewall in the BBC and Ofcom? Or did they simply deny there was any bias or influence, and use Nolan's programme to prove that in some form of twisted logic? I always found the "everyone's complaining about us, so we must be doing fine" argument spurious, when one side's complaints come from a culture where "hate", "violence" and other ordinary words have taken on a whole new meaning.

Igneococcus · 24/04/2025 09:24

Janice Turner in her Notebook today:
"Late to the party
You run the flagship BBC radio show for women and — wow! — two Scottish women, their arms raised in victory, are pictured outside the Supreme Court on the front page of every national newspaper. They’ve made history! Everyone is talking about their seven-year battle for this landmark ruling on what the hell is a woman.
If you were the Woman’s Hour editor Karen Dalziel, wouldn’t your journalistic instincts tell you to rip up your running order, (maybe cut your 4,000th item on the menopause) and rush these women to the studio? Er, no. Next day, hilariously, WH had a man, Joshua Rozenberg, explain the ruling.
Apart from a brief appearance on World at One, Radio 4 ignored the women: they weren’t interviewed on the Today programme, nor PM, whose presenter Evan Davis sounded delighted to find in Lord Sumption a man to trivialise and misrepresent the judgment (while failing to name the Equality Act correctly), with no balancing voice.
Finally yesterday, after substantial social media pressure, Susan Smith of For Women Scotland appeared on Woman’s Hour. A whole week late. Hey, Karen, what a scoop!"

Let’s not downplay this triumph for women

Fight for ‘woman’ to be ruled a biological term has been long and bitter — we won’t forget our allies and opponents along the way

https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/lets-not-downplay-this-triumph-for-women-kjblm09zb

NotAtMyAge · 24/04/2025 11:35

ViolasandViolets · 23/04/2025 23:46

It matters because it is another indication of bias.

Bias by whom? The interviewer, the sound engineer who recorded the interview, the producer who edited it? We just don't know and never will. I'm just glad that WH actually interviewed the stunningly good Susan Smith who got all her points across so clearly and well. It was a triumph for her and for FWS.

ViolasandViolets · 24/04/2025 11:35

NotAtMyAge · 24/04/2025 11:35

Bias by whom? The interviewer, the sound engineer who recorded the interview, the producer who edited it? We just don't know and never will. I'm just glad that WH actually interviewed the stunningly good Susan Smith who got all her points across so clearly and well. It was a triumph for her and for FWS.

The BBC.

Skyellaskerry · 24/04/2025 12:21

Sausagenbacon · 23/04/2025 18:00

I thought it was excellent, just what the subject required.
The right questions were asked, and plenty of time given to the answers.
I don't feel the need to police the tone of the presenter.

Same here. I am pleased Susan Smith was given a clear run at her answers. She’s brilliant.

maltravers · 24/04/2025 15:13

The important thing (imo) is that clear run at the answers. Those listeners who have never really grasped the detail of what this is all about are now actually hearing the GC side of the story properly. Also, our national broadcaster has effectively been forced to start airing properly the GC arguments. Otherwise it would just look absolutely ridiculous given the court ruling.

WarriorN · 24/04/2025 18:18

Listening again; so much time given for answers.

the clip online I interpret as someone on radio really concentrating on their questioning and the answers.

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