Womans Hour Wed 23rd April.

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Apparently the women from FWS will be on.....

https://x.com/millihill/status/1914732862894694516?t=dVRYwM118BO_24mO21-05g&s=19

Having finally managed to listen to the interview I would agree with this. It was a pre-recorded interview ("I spoke to her earlier") and at first the interviewer did start in a studiously impersonal way. However I felt she warmed to Susan as the interview went on and sounded much more human by the end. My guess is the lack of a thank-you is because it was pre-recorded and the thank-yous and final pleasantries were cut to save time. I was impressed by the fact Clare allowed plenty of time for Susan to answer and didn't interrupt, an example I wish so many other interviewers could follow at least some of the time. Overall I though it was a really good interview and Susan did a superb job.

Absolutely the fight is real. I'm 55 and I was a very political teenager in the 80's and 90's then not much as I got on with my career and having kids and life. This trans stuff has completely re-radicalised me! I have zero sympathy for these entitled grabbing group of men.

I haven’t heard it all but I always welcome a hostile grilling, though I don’t feel it was.

We need the tra questions so they can be calmly refuted. As without fail, every single woman standing for the cause has always given intelligent and well reasoned/ evidenced replies.

I actually feared a TW on for balance which hasn’t happened thank fuck. Hopefully never again.

Also, this kind of interview around more serious things to do with law etc, always has that tone. The fluffy stuff comes later.

Yes, it's again the massive disparity . Women raised money for this. A entire government paid for the other side. Using taxpayers money.

Yet women are the ones being scolded for big donations !

I agree that it is good the interviewer gave the excellent Susan time to speak. I thought the interviewer could have been more positive about the court result though and as transmen are female it’s odd she ignored them and focussed on transwomen. I think the “other men just have to accommodate gender non conforming men, they shouldn’t become women’s problem” was a good answer and stressing the number of transwomen who have minimal changes to their body was good. Men can dress how they want but I don’t want them in my changing room, sports or hospital ward just because they are wearing a wig and lipstick.

I would like to see TRAs face a grilling just once

The comments below the WH Instagram post on this segment are unedifying display of pick-me pandering. Lots of 'I'm a woman and you don't speak for me'. Given WH's output over the last few years I suppose it's not surprising that the average listener doesn't seem to be great at critical thinking.

I still think it was a useful piece, but I have now watched the clip on Woman's Hour on X, and another clip of the same interviewer. It was a short extract, but she was not making it at all easy for Susan Smith imo. There was no engagement with her interviewee, and tbh if it's possible to look antagonistic by just sitting there, Clare McDonnell was doing a very good job of it.

They never do. They cancel last minute or only do pre recorded interviews. Refuse to debate with other interviewees

They never do. They cancel last minute or only do pre recorded interviews. Refuse to debate with other interviewees

Gosh I've since picked up a different vibe from the BBC online clip (sorry it is on X, but I am sure it is probably somewhere else too by now): https://x.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1915048936265408659

Didn’t Talk Radio have a TRA on and as soon as she was asked a question she declared she was ‘unsafe’ and stormed off?

I thought it was excellent, just what the subject required.
The right questions were asked, and plenty of time given to the answers.
I don't feel the need to police the tone of the presenter.

I agree with you.
It was a good interview with plenty of space to answer fully.
A cosy chat would not have allowed Susan to flesh out her answers so fully.

I've just seen the clip on Woman's Hour instagram feed; while it's interesting that they chose to highlight that particular question (of the many small donations funding the court case), Clare McDonnell's expression is certainly... uncompromising.

My guess is the lack of a thank-you is because it was pre-recorded and the thank-yous and final pleasantries were cut to save time.

Woman's Hour is 57-ish minutes long. Why did this interview have to be crammed into 20 minutes? What was so pressing about all the other content that 10 seconds couldn't have been found to say a polite thank-you?

On the principle that a carrot is better than a stick, I’ve emailed to say well done for covering this and I hope to see WH featuring similar achievements in the future.

Listened to the whole thing now - I thought the interviewer was fine and probably asked what she needed to. Susan was magnificent.

I’ve just tried to edit but I can’t for some reason. I wonder if they’ve locked down the page somehow. I’d be raging if I was working for FWS.

Original birth certificate is what matters.

I thought the Supreme Court gave clarification to that in a very coherent and understandable way. Sex is biological sex (for the purposes of the Equality Act 2010), and biological sex means sex at birth, as recorded at birth.

Therefore one's original birth certificate, created by a registrar within the first six weeks of life, is the document that matters.

I honestly can't believe Clare didn't thank Susan, but the interviewer isn't the person who edits the recording. We simply can't know what else was said and I think disagreeing about this actually takes attention away from just how good Susan's answers were.

All that will happen is that the page will end up protected or semi-protected.

It was temporarily semi-protected earlier today https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=For_Women_Scotland&oldid=1287056875

Gosh I see what you mean. The interviewer was clearly not hiding her opinion. It was very much as though FWS had done something wrong!!!