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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

a list of men or companies who have stood up for us

485 replies

siucra · 20/04/2025 19:17

Like so many here, I have been disheartened by the lack of support from so many famous men, those I liked and or admired are now and will forever be in my blacklist. Same for companies.
This whole experience has been so hard and I thank all the incredible women who carried on and spoke for us...
However, who are the men who were on our side? Andrew Neil? Piers Morgan? There aren't many but would love to hear some names of those who put women first...

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Winterwonders24 · 21/04/2025 18:16

WarriorN · 21/04/2025 11:53

He did a quiet reverse ferret recently I think

Didn't it have a ton of cavets,and no acknowledgement he'd changed?

TheAutumnCrow · 21/04/2025 18:22

frenchnoodle · 21/04/2025 15:18

Tell us you've not read through the thread without telling us you have not read through the thread.

Some people would call that stupidity.

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ThatCyanCat · 21/04/2025 18:51

Did Ben Goldacre ever get drawn on this? He got asked enough times but I never saw him reply.

TheAutumnCrow · 21/04/2025 19:13

littleburn · 21/04/2025 16:39

Professor Robert Winston - did a quick skim and wasn’t sure if he’d been mentioned!

Yes, he's been mentioned and deserves the extra, extra mentions for giving the nation our unforgettable (and unforgiveable) 'Fiona Bruce moment' where she shows herself while 'chairing' Questiontime for the woke and anti-science BBC apparatchik that she is.

Winston's work in the Lords on maternity legislation also gave us the 'Penny Mordaunt moment' in the Commons in July 2022 when she opined at the despatch box (when being forced to accept his maternity amendment) that 'TMAM and TWAW' - and said this on behalf of the government. She was only the Paymaster General at that time. Overstepped. Big furore.

The fucking nerve of shit like this (and the unpopularity of it with the general populace!) helped to tank Mordaunt's career under PM Boris Johnson and Liz Truss and gave us GC Rishi Sunak as the new leader and PM - and Rishi Sunak rejected the SNP self-ID nonsense too.

Mordaunt's views were clearly very unpopular with the grassroots membership and, other than a few male MPs she was able to shmooze in the Westminter tearooms, the Parliamentary Party. They repeatedly rejected her as party leader.

(She's no longer an MP - although sadly an even worse Labour gender nutter took her seat.)

Mordaunt's despatch box declaration was in direct opposition to her government's stated position. In Sept 2020 the then Minister for Women & Equalities Liz Truss (under Boris Johnson) had killed the idea of self-ID stone dead in the Commons much to the rage of MPs like Crispin Blunt who threw a right tantrum during her Commons announcement.

So thank you, Robert Winston, and your powerful butterfly wings that had a huge effect.

CautiousLurker01 · 21/04/2025 22:09

Oliver Brown, chf sports writer for The Telegraph. Blistering commentary over the Olympics ‘women’s’ boxing and outspoken ever since.

JennyForeigner · 21/04/2025 22:31

Nice to see Alex Massie mentioned. He's such a brilliant writer, I feel like he and James Kirkup set up a tone of such clear moral and intellectual rigour from the GC men from the start that there was never going to be any serious attempt at a intellectual argument against them. Just bullying and mock incredulity, which was never going to be sustainable.

I don't think you can mention them without talking about Helen Lewis though - someone else I think was probably very albeit quietly influential.

AInightingale · 22/04/2025 00:19

Just remembered Stephen Nolan, the BBC NI broadcaster who did the investigative Stonewall podcast a couple of years ago. God knows how he got it through the BBC barbed wire, but it really got a lot people talking about the influence of this organisation and questioning its motives and credibility.

WorriedMutha · 22/04/2025 01:00

Simon Myerson KC. Check out his X.

Mistyglade · 22/04/2025 01:06

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 20/04/2025 21:07

Doesn't surprise me at all. The man's a diamond who doesn't get half the respect or appreciation he should.

Never forget him correcting that commentator, ‘men’s tennis’.. I love his quiet honest and genuine way of speaking.

TempestTost · 22/04/2025 02:02

I thought Brian Cox actor was a GI supporter?

Clinicalwaste · 22/04/2025 10:00

Michale Knowles is a us right wing catholic political commentator. I don’t agree with everything he says but a few years ago he had a liquid thrown on him at a university speech for saying men are not women. He laughed it off but it was terrifying to see. He has been fearless on this issue but there was no outcry or any ripple at all when this happened to him such was the support for the ideology.

Pluvia · 22/04/2025 10:18

AInightingale · 22/04/2025 00:19

Just remembered Stephen Nolan, the BBC NI broadcaster who did the investigative Stonewall podcast a couple of years ago. God knows how he got it through the BBC barbed wire, but it really got a lot people talking about the influence of this organisation and questioning its motives and credibility.

Yes, but having broken out so spectacularly and said the unsayable, he and the producer he works with crept straight back in again and have been unwilling to say anything much on the subject since.

user101101 · 22/04/2025 11:03

They tend to be right-wing as opposed to left wing. So there should be a separate (shorter) list for left-wing men!

Also, men on the right only know what a woman because he's guarding "his property"...

SternJoyousBee · 22/04/2025 11:05

I listened to their Stonewall podcast yesterday I had heard it when it was first published but hearing it now really puts some perspective into how we got where we are. Their interview with Benhamin Cohen (Pink News) especially illuminating.

SidewaysOtter · 22/04/2025 13:28

Can we add the comedian Simon Evans to the list?

Clinicalwaste · 22/04/2025 18:26

shout out to 'Man Friday' in the spirit of self ID 😁

Another to Zuby and Elon Musk opening twitter to heritics was a turning point

Angelabdc · 22/04/2025 19:33

TempestTost · 22/04/2025 02:02

I thought Brian Cox actor was a GI supporter?

A wee bit both sides, but he did say on BBC1 in 2023 about JKR

"Actually, I think she’s entitled to her opinion, she’s entitled to say what (she feels), as a woman, she’s very much entitled to say what she feels about her own body."

BreadInCaptivity · 22/04/2025 21:55

BreadInCaptivity · 21/04/2025 15:54

Ross Tucker - sports scientist who robustly deconstructed the Phelps Gambit

My DH who robustly and successfully argued for male/female toilets as the norm with some gender neutral provision facilities on each floor (as opposed to all gender neutral provision - cubicles with shared sinks the architects had proposed and that everyone else would have signed off) at the new corporate HQ that was being built and where he now works.

Realised I should have added the gender neutral toilets he argued for were in addition to the accessible toilets (which was a “suggestion” they could be “one and the same” he also pushed back on).

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/04/2025 22:11

Clinicalwaste · 22/04/2025 18:26

shout out to 'Man Friday' in the spirit of self ID 😁

Another to Zuby and Elon Musk opening twitter to heritics was a turning point

OMG, how could I forget Man Friday and her swimming caps? Amazing woman.👏💪💞

AInightingale · 22/04/2025 23:12

BreadInCaptivity · 22/04/2025 21:55

Realised I should have added the gender neutral toilets he argued for were in addition to the accessible toilets (which was a “suggestion” they could be “one and the same” he also pushed back on).

I'll be bloody furious if the disabled facility is offered as an alternative to the single sex toilets for these ridiculous people. Should be male/female/thirdspace/accessible; if no thirdspace available, use the sodding bogs applicable to your biological sex.

cariadlet · 23/04/2025 00:49

BreadInCaptivity · 22/04/2025 21:55

Realised I should have added the gender neutral toilets he argued for were in addition to the accessible toilets (which was a “suggestion” they could be “one and the same” he also pushed back on).

Your DH is definitely one of the good guys. His push back will have helped every woman who works in that building.

Glad to hear that he insisted on gender neutral toilets in addition to the disabled ones.
I'm guilty of talking about 3rd spaces but after a reminder on another thread, I'm trying to remember to rephrase that as 4th spaces.

flummoxedlummox · 23/04/2025 01:01

As far as men are concerned, I think Elon Musk has to be the man who has had the biggest impact.

I dread to think how long it would have taken if he hadn't bought twitter.

NoFineBalance · 23/04/2025 08:36

Not sure whether these have been mentioned:

Peter Boghossian.

EDI Jester on YouTube.

Dennis Kavanagh KC. He was on a GC podcast for a year or so with another gentleman, whose name I cannot remember, but the other gentleman, bravely standing up in the gay community for women, deserves a shout out too. Haven't seen their podcast coming up in my feed now for ages, hope he's ok.

The men at New Culture Forum (of the right, yes, knew what a woman was before the Supreme Court hearing, yes)

Barbadossunset · 23/04/2025 09:37

There’s a good article on Substack by Andrew Doyle headed ‘Trans activism has jumped the shark.’’ which is well worth a read.