a list of men or companies who have stood up for us

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Like so many here, I have been disheartened by the lack of support from so many famous men, those I liked and or admired are now and will forever be in my blacklist. Same for companies.
This whole experience has been so hard and I thank all the incredible women who carried on and spoke for us...
However, who are the men who were on our side? Andrew Neil? Piers Morgan? There aren't many but would love to hear some names of those who put women first...

I read somewhere that when he was signing the EO he said that it was bloody ridiculous he was having to do this as it’s obvious there are only two sexes 😂

I was thinking it would be a good idea to write to the people/companies who supported us, as well as those who haven't, just to encourage/dissuade them respectively.

I began to doubt myself so ! did a search on "Nick Robinson" and "trans". It may be a result of my algorithms but I couldn't find any damning evidence. The first result was Paris Lees in Pink News bewailing his interview with NR! Here's a link (not a click for Prick News).

I stand by my assertion that Nick is one of the good 'uns. His only sin seems to be (as befits an impartial journalist) in wanting to be fair, and give GI brigade the chance to put their POV. But it usually turns into predictable nonsense and a fine example of #OperationLetThemSpeak.

Trevor Phillips. Very strong article in the Times this morning.

James Kirkup is not only a brilliant writer, he absolutely grasps the issues.

He came on here a few years back to explain why he had stopped writing about it. Still completely agreed with us, but had other things to do, if I recall correctly

It would be great if he could jump on board the Zeitgeist bus one last time, to help expose the genuine conspiracy behind it all.

Biological reality transcends politics. Making the issue of "what is a woman" a political issue is how this problem has come about. Science is science, biology is biology. Anyone from any part of the political spectrum can understand and agree with biological fact. What they then do with that understanding is a completely different issue - whether they use it to support or hold back women is the political part. But not being able to even define a woman has been a nefarious political position couched in misogyny, that women hating men from all parts of the political spectrum have employed, and mostly it's been men on the left doing it.

Jordan Peterson basically lost his license to teach and be a therapist because he refused to use pro-nouns. He's been a stalwart.

The whole gender ideology thing has just given 'lefty' men who hate women and don't see them as worthwhile humans (other than to fuck or provide them with a service) a good vehicle to express that hate. The kind of men who see women as handy for going round putting leaflets in letter boxes to support male politicians or making the sandwiches for the men. There was a brief period in time where being seen as an open misogynist wasn't really fashionable but they remained misogynists.

I would like to add my husband 😂

stuck up for me when being shouted at by several friends / family members when I said trans women aren’t women and I said I was GC and he didn’t speak to his sister for months because of what she said to me

I was actually told by one of them “I bet you go on mumsnet and read that crap” 😂

he actually wasn’t aware of the whole twaw stuff but just applied common sense that no one can change sex and men shouldn’t be in women’s spaces

I am sorry, I have not seen his guidance, I saw him being interviewed many times, guidance never mentioned. Struck me as massively supporting women against this madness.

The same lefty men who told women they supported their progress, but needed to wait until XYZ issues were dealt with first. The same men who dangled carrots like codifying/protecting abortion rights in women's faces for 50 years, but actually did nothing about it - why would they, it's hooked women in for successive elections - until it was too bloody late to do anything.

I admit to not having read through the whole thread but just wanted to say - my husband and all the other husbands/partners/boyfriends who have stood up locally whilst not famous they also have an impact (although more limited.) There are many more who I think will be more willing to call this issue our from now on.

It's this that always shocks me -

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/03/grayson-perry-when-crossdressing-crosses-the-line/amp/

The photo referred to in the article was taken at a charity event raising money for children with cancer.

It just beggars belief.

Mine too. Got into an argument with some neighbours about it ( they brought it up!) and I was calm and logical and trying to channel my inner Helen Joyce but the wife was screaming at my saying she'd never heard such 'extreme' views ( my view being that trans women aren't the same as biological women). My husband backed me up and funnily enough she didn't screech at him but listened respectfully. I was so annoyed, a woman treating another woman like that and acting completely differently with the man.

No he doesn't. What he is is very clever, though.

He's a self-confessed AGP. So freely admits that he has a fetish, but still uses women's toilets.

I know that some people find virtue in the honesty, at least, but when you know that this fetish is fuelled by the public's participation, it's a bit rich for Hayton to pretend that his behaviour is motivated by, er, women's rights.

he's a member of Mumsnet, and there's a thread somewhere, where it becomes quite clear, after a bit of digging by women, that he believes women self form a hierarchy around the size of each other's breasts.

The bigger the breast, the more cachet the woman has amongst her peers. Apparently.

It would appear that a lot of these men's ideas about women are a result of rather too much porn consumption, rather than concern with their rights.

Yes it's amazing how being honest somehow results in the sanitisation of a damaging fetish!

No chance. He involves women in his fetish without their knowledge. Horrible.

He's the kind of cross-dresser the BBC loves because he presents as an "eccentric" and apparently the Brits all love an eccentric.

Well, not this one.

Hi tweet was wonderful

Breasts and cachet???? Speechless.

Matthew Ancona

Paul Peace @ NoCisgender

I was calm and logical and trying to channel my inner Helen Joyce but the wife was screaming at my saying she'd never heard such 'extreme' views ( my view being that trans women aren't the same as biological women).

Its extraordinary how easily this lobby have convinced so many people that mutilating young people, giving them life changing drugs that could render them infertile, young people who are experiencing serious mental problems, that this is the kind thing to do, and that thinking this is a bad idea is 'extreme'.

I think that most supporters take a conservative (small c) view on this matter, or is it just common sense? Luckily we have these people on all sides of the political divide.

I am pleased to say that I don't know anyone who is a serious trans supporter. They will support people who want to transition and just get on with their lives, but they don't believe you can change sex and they want to be able to say they don't want drag queens in the local primary school.

I know! It was quite the eye opener.

Women defer to other women with big boobs.

It was almost laughable, especially when you consider that barely a day goes by on here without women moaning about boob size

Nick Cohen

Liberal Voice for Women (LVW) is the Lib Dem GC group fighting back against the ideological madness consuming the main party.

There are men who support LVW, and I thank them.

They also have been targeted by many other Lib Dem members, some of whom have characterised LVW as ‘lice’ who require eradication. The Lib Dem complaints process about this has proved useless.

The Lib Dem Party is NOT a tame alternative to the Tories or Labour.