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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I did it

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/04/2025 16:39

I posted in support of the Supreme Court judgment on my Facebook profile.

I've made a note of my friend count, let's see if it drops.

Two likes so far, no comments.

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MyHeartyCoralSnail · 20/04/2025 16:40

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/04/2025 16:39

I posted in support of the Supreme Court judgment on my Facebook profile.

I've made a note of my friend count, let's see if it drops.

Two likes so far, no comments.

Well done. I do think most people frightened into silence will start feeling more confident saying they believe in reality

Lovelyview · 20/04/2025 16:41

Well done! I will watch your updates with interest. 🙂

ArabellaScott · 20/04/2025 16:42

Well done, OP.

It's time.

“Remember the dignity of your womanhood. Do not appeal, do not beg, do not grovel. Take courage, join hands, stand beside us, fight with us!” –

Christabel Pankhurst

CoffeeAndCakeLover · 20/04/2025 16:46

Well done you. I haven't dared! There was someone on a big mums WhatsApp group I'm on who was clearly very anti GC and her comment had maybe 3 people agreeing with it. Noone has said anything in support of the GC side.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 20/04/2025 16:46

A woman who I am generally very friendly with has posted on her timeline that she's sorry about the ruling, and wondering how we can support trans rights now.

I just don't know what to say to her.

I think I must just avoid the subject altogether with her.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/04/2025 16:46

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 20/04/2025 16:40

Well done. I do think most people frightened into silence will start feeling more confident saying they believe in reality

I shared Sonia Sodha's piece in the Guardian with a brief comment. I've been feeling that I ought to say something, but struggling with what to say. Being able to share something sensible written in the left wing media made it easier to take the plunge.

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CriticalCondition · 20/04/2025 16:47

Well done!

I don't do Facebook but I did post about it on a group chat. Three likes (including someone who I didn't know was GC) and a positive comment from someone who had also been following the case.

ArabellaScott · 20/04/2025 16:50

I've done the same, OP.

I'm fairly public about my views anyway, but every little helps.

Let's go!

Lookuptotheskies · 20/04/2025 16:53

Ooh interesting thread!

I've taken note of which of my friends have posted a "be kind" type story on Facebook regarding how they stand with trans people and their rights. 🙄

One is a very close friend and I'm shocked this has come up in our RL conversations.

I also have a lot of mums of children with autism in my friends circle, some of whom have trans children (primary school age and senior school age) and I KNOW if I post that I am GC they will immediately unfriend me and slate me far and wide declaring me a transphobe. 🙄

It's actually really hard to bite my tongue as an autistic woman. The stats regarding autistic kids and gender issues are very concerning. But it's one of those things in the autism parent carer world that you are not allowed to question at all or be deemed evil incarnate. 😔 I do keep liking Neuropoppin's GC posts though.... And lots and lots of other GC posts.

Lottapianos · 20/04/2025 16:55

I shared a link to the Sex Matters breakdown of the verdict with a very mild comment of my own. Zero responses from my FB friends. Disappointing but not entirely surprised. I know there are some people in there who are up to their eyeballs in trans ideology 🙄 having lunch with a friend tomorrow who is full on GC so looking forward to that

WarriorN · 20/04/2025 16:58

If you want to see the idiocy amongst what might be seen as the educated classes, go see the comments on the Let Clothes be Clothes facebook page.

the campaign came from mumsnet. The previous admin celebrated earlier this week, and received a lot of disgust. She’s been winding down for a while, and this was her goodbye.

Someone else has taken over admining and is similarly getting a hell of a lot of “transphobe bigot” ing.

clearly many idiots were following that page

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/04/2025 17:00

I am expecting to get very little engagement with the post because a lot of people won't want to be seen even liking a gender critical post, even if they agree with it. But we'll see.

I feel a bit lighter though. I felt like a bit of a hypocrite saying everything I think on here but not being brave enough to put my real name to any of it. It helps that I'm slightly older than most of the peak TWAW generation and I think most of my friends list are fairly sensible. We'll see.

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CautiousLurker01 · 20/04/2025 17:01

Well done. I’ve not dared as I deleted everyone I haven’t seen pre covid (ie since kids in infant school) and also anyone posting political posts as I got sick of the requests asking ‘will you put a Vote Labour’/free Palestine/TWAW etc post outside your house for me please?’

But I have deleted anyone posting their heartbreak at the decision and anyone who ‘like’ the posts… passive aggressive, I know, but fuck it.

VanishingVision · 20/04/2025 17:08

Good for you, I hope the people who do disagree just open up actual conversation about it rather than the same old TWAW stuff.
Honestly I am considering doing the same, I'd like to hope that it would open up a reasonable dialogue with other trans people I know about why I feel that way. But I doubt it would and perhaps I should try and approach them first to talk about it after the protests have died down? I think right now I would get the repeated 'terf token' 'pick me' 'you sold your community out' shit I've gotten before just for stating simple facts

DragonRunor · 20/04/2025 17:09

Well done Miss Scarlet

I think this is already allowing more people to speak freely. Silencing what I think is a majority of people was the TRA’s best hope. The more people speak up, the more other people feel able to xx

ArabellaScott · 20/04/2025 17:14

DragonRunor · 20/04/2025 17:09

Well done Miss Scarlet

I think this is already allowing more people to speak freely. Silencing what I think is a majority of people was the TRA’s best hope. The more people speak up, the more other people feel able to xx

Yes. Which is why at some point we need to take these little steps if we can.

springbabydays · 20/04/2025 17:15

I've done it too. Mainly for awareness. I don't think many people realise what shit has been going down and I just want them to know.

PaintDecisions · 20/04/2025 17:16

I've muted several old friends who are clearly TRA. Not yet got the gumption to post myself...

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/04/2025 17:17

First dissenting comment from a gay man.

I responded politely, but pointing out that as a man, perhaps he doesn't have the necessary lived experience to understand why this is so important for women.

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Britinme · 20/04/2025 17:20

My local arts community is very trans rights oriented so I keep my head down, in a cowardly fashion. FB friends are mostly TR oriented too. One posted this today. I'd love to break it down but I won't...

Britinme · 20/04/2025 17:21

Ah looks as if the image didn't post.

moto748e · 20/04/2025 17:23

Heh! I did the same a couple of days ago, and total responses so far: zero! So it looks like the half a dozen or so people on the planet who ever read my FB posts either aren't that bothered, or would 'prefer not to say'! 😄

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/04/2025 17:25

Four likes so far, all from women about my age (late 30s to mid 40s). Not very surprised by any of them.

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SnoopysnoopDog · 20/04/2025 17:25

I often use Facebook to post about this situation because, rather than X/Twitter which can be a bit of an echo chamber (though I like it), I think that Facebook can reach people that don't know much about this subject or bury their heads in the sand. You may be surprised which of your friends give your post a Like!

ArabellaScott · 20/04/2025 17:26

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/04/2025 17:17

First dissenting comment from a gay man.

I responded politely, but pointing out that as a man, perhaps he doesn't have the necessary lived experience to understand why this is so important for women.

Well done. We're all here behind you!

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