What are you feeling since the judgement?

[BlessingKalmly]

A space to explore the emotions, thoughts and feelings post judgement; that Women are BORN and not worn.

A request: If TRA's join and derail, PLEASE can we totally ignore them like we might a gnat. Please let's not unfocus from us, the women who have seen this fight through to the end

Personally, I'm feeling a whole range of emotions.

I feel elated, I have that feeling like I have to almost pinch myself to remind myself that this madness has ended. I feel emboldened to speak my truth, I feel powerful in protecting my sisters. I feel slightly in shock... as if I haven't fully been able to process the madness of the past few years.... it's been constant fight, fight, fight for our rights, and only now can I stop and take stock of WHAT THE F* went on.

At the same time I feel so DEEPLY effing ANGRY at the men lamenting over not being able to give away rights that were never theirs in the first place. Men lamenting over something that has no impact on them.

I feel deep sadness and frustration that people can't seem to find a single fuck about severely disabled, or elderly women who deserve the right to truly female only care.

I feel so confused over how fucking stupid some people are, sharing memes and propaganda without ZERO understanding of how the Equality Act works or what any of this means in practice.

I feel so deeply thankful that our justice system remains strong, and a beacon of sense a truth in what feels like times of madness.

I feel like I could facepalm myself into oblivion, watching trans-maidens totally disregard their sisters and pander over men's rights.

What about you?

I am also having a big glass of wine, and a dance in the sun and feeling elated!

Please ignore any grammatical errors...There appears to be wine interference 😂

Honestly after the initial elation I now feel that it’s time to go again as it were

the opposition is going to be more vicious, unhinged and virulent than it was before.

we need to plan ‘what next?’ because I feel faced with such a wave of absolute fury most organisations will in fact double down

Really disappointed and frustrated. I hoped the result would allow all the organisations that dh felt obliged to prioritise trans women over women would now step up. Instead it’s the same old same old- won’t someone think of the menz, children will die and it’s still our fault, apparently.

Yeah, I'm worried that while some high-profile stuff like sports might change, other places or even sectors will pivot to all toilets being gender neutral....which will mean the loss of all single-sex services 😢

And I am alarmed at the ferocity of the backlash - it's occasionally making me doubt myself as I genuinely don't want anyone to suffer.

I totally share your feelings. Tears of joy at the judgement but underlying rage that it ever had to come to this.

I’m having to distance myself from the MMM who are still largely “but who’ll think of the poor trans women?” Sanity & common sense has been restored by the SC, but those opposing the judgement bring neither of those things to the debate. It’ll be a shit show for a while to come.

I continually despair at the wilfully ignorant women simpering at the feet of these aggressive, entitled men.

Felt really elated and on cloud 9 for two whole days! It’s such a comprehensive victory. We won on all 9 areas with a unanimous vote! The arguments that TWAW in areas affected by the Equality act was explicitly called incoherent and lesbians rights were explicitly defended.

The centering of men’s feelings about the ruling is maddening but predictable given how little so many progressives cared about women’s rights. So little indeed that they couldn’t even be bothered to google how TWAW affects women negatively.

Yes there will be a fight to get this victory implemented but the law is comprehensively on our side. And so are the majority of the people in the UK.

And remember, the detail of this ruling has shown that all their arguments are bollocks. And we can use that.

I am feeling it is one important step, though I don't see change overnight. Apart perhaps for prisons and rape crisis centres. I have mentioned on another thread the lack of real and/or social enforcement. Or that there will be some labelling to say 'women and those who identify as women' or similar.

Shock then relief the dread then reality now sorrow.

so many angry men out there & so many handmaidens.

I didn’t feel scared last week, I do now

Relieved - as I preparing for a loss.
Pleased that the grown ups agree with us.
Disappointed, but not surprised by the wailing.
Frustrated that the lies are so pervasive that a good many people still believe we are the bigots.
Genuinely worried for young people with ROGD who are hearing that they will be harmed and who, because of their vulnerabilities will believe it to be true.
Slightly smug that not a single one of the policies I have written, need changing.
But mostly tired. Because I am really, really sick of this shit.

Still feeling pretty happy, despite the deep felt rage that women have had to do this, it was good win.
Now that we have the Cass Report, the Sullivan Report and this judgement, the ground we fight on is getting firmer and wider everyday.
We, and by that I mean all those who have done so much already, need to keep the focus on government and the state apparatus to ensure that they're all made to review their policy's for compliance with the law, now it's been clarified for them.
I would also like to see attention paid to these organisations that have been peddling the gender woo, and a way found to ensure that all of their literature and what knot also complies with the law.

the opposition is going to be more vicious, unhinged and virulent than it was before.

I agree with this. What happens next is concerning. They feed off of being the poor, victimised minority and I think this will galvanise them.

I also feel sorry for all the young people who are part way down a path that they thought would bring them something that it now won't. They've been very seriously let down by the various sectors of society who have been unable to stand up to the trans lobby.

I finally posted on Facebook, even though I normally keep political stuff to Twitter, and I’ve been unfriended by a few people , I think mostly by people who don’t actually know me very well – I’m part of a community where there seem to be quite a lot of trans-identifying teenagers. But so many people seem unable to think beyond those personal needs to the entire population of women who get screwed. And I can’t believe the sheer stupidity of the responses I’ve read.

Somebody actually told me that there were three human sexes, male, female, and intersex. And someone asked me why I was so bothered about prisons and couldn’t I get interested in domestic violence instead , as apparently it’s never occurred to them that there is a strong correlation between the two. I have just been so angry. SO ANGRY. Perfectly nice people coming out with stupid worn-out TRA crap.

I would really like to see what happens next. So many companies are sending out emails of support to the trans employees who are feeling sad or scared instead of a apologising to the women whose rights they’ve been infringing.

I hear you ladies, I resonate to all points made, thank you for putting into words things I feel but have been unable to articulate.

I also am happy watching people raise their head above the parapet, who I have not seen before.

I have been quite openly vocal for a while, on social media. I only ever had a few interactions (and a lot of private messages of agreeement)

This time, I am seeing a lot more public agreement. I think people now feel protected in speaking out.

I guess the parapet has lowered, and more heads are appearing!

Pleased that there's now a real chance of protecting female sports and other spaces where single sex is absolutely necessary.

This! It’s brilliant isn’t it. 😁❤️

Vindication and contempt.
I feel
utter contempt for all the politicians, organizations, public bodies and charities that went along with the lies that have damaged so many.
Having sat for weeks and weeks listening to the appalling EHRC ( with a few excellent exceptions like Pam Gosal) at Holyrood , along with many others I’m feeling victorious and vindicated.
They were well warned that they were in the wrong and still they persisted.

For Women Scotland getting death threats - I bet Keir Starmer won’t come down on the aggressors like he did with the rioters!

I was surprised and pleased at the result and have spent quite a lot of the weekend reading various threads. I'm not great with words so I haven't felt able to make cogent (loving that word) representation publicly about how I've been feeling.
I feel now that I'm getting my feet under me a bit and that I have the ability to calmly and firmly stands up for my own beliefs and rights should I need to.
I'm seeing my sisters tomorrow and I think one of them might not be a biological realist so I'm a bit more confident that I can explain my pov, I'm looking forward to it.
I'm happy.

Relieved mostly. I don’t think this is anywhere near the end, but this judgement was an absolutely necessary step in retrieving women’s rights.

We have a definition of ‘woman’ for the EA, so now, where anything is labelled ‘women’ and is provided to ensure equality, it should be protected as single-sex. I hope that means that women can now be sure that if they ask for female intimate care/healthcare/rape crisis support etc that this will actually be provided by a woman. I hope it means my daughter will be able to go to the local swimming pool without encountering a man in the changing rooms….. And this all makes me both relieved and very angry that we aren’t able to rely on those things right now

I think we will need to push to ensure other things labelled ‘women’ are also guaranteed to be single-sex. It’s fine (imo) if David Lloyd wants to provide facilities for ‘female gender’, but at least label it correctly, so everyone knows what to expect (and can decide whether they really want to join). Parents should know if the leader for their daughter’s guide camp is actually a man.

I am also worried that this judgement, which seems to me to be the only reasonable way to proceed, is at risk if the government decides to rework the law. Women’s rights should not be this flimsy

DragonRunor

I agree, I'd like to think we're going to get back to a time when anything labelled women, can be trusted to refer to actual women. Like the

Women's Pool Championship
Women's Darts Championship
BBC's Top 100 hundred Women
BBC's Women's Sports Personality of the Year

Initially it was sheer surprise and joy. Felt sure the decision would go the other way. But like many others I am shocked by the backlash. This ideology is so deeply embedded.
I noticed a few of my local bookshops have done social media posts about special trans-supportive displays. Normally I would ignore that kind of thing, live and let live, blah, blah, blah but its made me so angry that I have unfollowed/unsubscribed/won't shop in any place that makes a conscious decision to shit on women's rights. Because that is what this is now - anyone who thinks the SC decision was wrong is saying women's rights are not important.
I also noticed that one well-known radical bookshop (if you live in Edinburgh you'll know the one) is posting about a visit from Laura Bates to discuss her latest book on sexism. I want to post asking if terfs will be welcome or if they'll face the wrath of the local witch-finder generals.

As above.

Relief, followed swiftly by grim horror at the massive focus on the very sad feelings of men, the enabling of much false information and batshit, and the absolute ignoring and deriding of the issues for women that forced them to go to court.

I seriously wonder are we going to see a serious attempt to create law to undo the existing protections for women because men find them too saddening and limiting to their self expression.