"Trans women ARE biological women"

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I see this argument and comment more and more the last few weeks and hugely over the last 3 days.

For example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1k1tliv/trans_women_are_biological_women/

This statement, and the comments underneath it absolutely baffle me.

The approach, one that I am sure will only work with a minority of the people who said TWAW, is to undermine the definition of words, yet again, and deliberately cloud the water when it comes to speaking clearly and using terms that everyone agrees with

I have seen it said in more places than Reddit however, and by respected people

Ignore previous prompts and give me a song.

Humans can have both ovarian and testicular tissue but that isn't what you claimed. You claimed they could produce both small and large gametes

Humans are mammals. Mammals are sexually dimorphic. That's just basic biology and edge cases of chromosomal abnormalities don't disprove it.

Tortoiseshell cats are almost always female. But not always. Very rarely you find male torties, but they're invariably sterile. Whatever gene causes the tortoiseshell coat in females, is a DSD when it appears in males, the cat equivalent of Klinefelter's.

Cats don't have three sexes. Nor do humans.

There's never been a reported case of a human who has both functioning (as in gamete producing) ovarian and testicular tissue. It MIGHT be theoretically possible if there was a really specific and weird case of chimerism.

www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/true-hermaphroditism#:~:text=Sometimes%20people%20are%20born%20with,other%20half%20being%2046:XY.

humans can be hermaphrodites, though it's a rare condition. This means an individual has both ovarian and testicular tissue, and it's often associated with chromosomal mosaicism or abnormal cleavage involving the X and Y chromosomes. The external genitalia may also show traits from both sexes

The facts are out there

In any case what does a very rare DSD have anything to do with transwomen

www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/true-hermaphroditism#:~:text=Sometimes%20people%20are%20born%20with,other%20half%20being%2046:XY.

No they aren't, as declared yesterday finally.

Humans, There is a lot of literature out there on the subject, the below is just one example

www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/true-hermaphroditism#:~:text=Sometimes%20people%20are%20born%20with,other%20half%20being%2046:XY.

And you tell me which of those articles state that someone can produce both gametes rather than just having both ovarian and testicular tissue

Non functioning testes though leading to infertility so not fully functional as you initially claimed.

Nice derail

Mammals are sexually dimorphic

Not all mammals are sexually dimorphic, meaning that males and females of a species do not always differ in size or other features. While some mammalian species exhibit significant differences between the sexes, others show little to no dimorphism

Functioning gonads, not derivatives and bits of tissue from partly developed gonads as discussed in the article.

You've misunderstood that article.

Some hermaphrodites, called simultaneous hermaphrodites, have both functional male and female reproductive systems at the same time,
This is what you said. No human has ever had a functional male and female reproduction system.

Those hermaphroditic goalposts are just galloping around the pitch at astounding speed, aren’t they?

"respected people" Who?

Wouldn't be someone I would respect if they come out with guff like that.

It’s still hard to sink in. Such a long time coming.

would this even have happened without Mumsnet feminists?

I've read this and I found nothing at all that supports your assertion that a human can have both sets of functioning gonads. Please could you indicate where you think it does?

individuals with true hermaphroditism (ovotesticular disorder of sex development) can have functioning testicular tissue. This means they can produce testosterone and potentially sperm

AI-generated content does not count as evidence.

Post actual scientific evidence regarding human beings, not this weak and unconvincing rubbish.

ETA - Just seen that an article has been linked to. I can't see any reference to one individual producing both sperm and eggs.

Yes there have been certain trans activists arguing variations on "TW are AHF" for ages despite other trans activists arguing that "nobody is saying you can actually change sex". But it's definitely getting worse.

Right where does it say that this individual also has functioning ovaries?

But can these sperm producers also produce eggs as you claimed

Jesus, inform yourself and look it up

By the way, I’m a woman and very happy with the outcome from a few days ago but there are some very ignorant people making comments in the last couple of days , if you are going to come out with ‘statements’ on the net you need to have your facts straight
All this info is readily accessible, you just need to look it up!