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Aren’t the front pages and headlines glorious!

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SameyMcNameChange · 17/04/2025 07:23

I know there is a fair amount of bandwagon jumping, but it feels like the newspapers have finally read the room and realised that the SC ruling is welcomed by FAR more people than it disappoints. And so the front pages have smiling faces and headlines that would never have been published before.

Even, for example, the Metro which has had a pretty shocking record before has a pretty clear headline and a picture of smiling women.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czd3jg60q4no

Front pages of The Times and the Daily Mail for 17 April

Newspaper headlines: 'Victory for women' and 'equity policies in chaos'

Thursday's front pages lead on the Supreme Court's ruling that a woman is defined by biological sex under equalities law.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czd3jg60q4no

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TheOtherRaven · 19/04/2025 18:51

Igneococcus · 19/04/2025 18:31

What a fabulous article!

Conxis · 19/04/2025 18:56

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 18:37

Well I hope video footage is studied and the perpetrators arrested and charged, as has happened with other statues, the cenotaph etc

BiologicalRobot · 19/04/2025 19:05

Mijke van der Drift, a tutor at the Royal College of Art, said: “Spaces get safe if you have good practices against violence.

“Cis-women can be very violent, but they can also be our allies, our friends, and our lovers. But if you want safe spaces, you need to have anti-violent practices. Because honestly, people are raped by their uncles, are raped by their family members by their exes.

So they say women are violent then go onto examples of MEN being violent. They really are stupid aren't they.

EasternStandard · 19/04/2025 19:38

BiologicalRobot · 19/04/2025 19:05

Mijke van der Drift, a tutor at the Royal College of Art, said: “Spaces get safe if you have good practices against violence.

“Cis-women can be very violent, but they can also be our allies, our friends, and our lovers. But if you want safe spaces, you need to have anti-violent practices. Because honestly, people are raped by their uncles, are raped by their family members by their exes.

So they say women are violent then go onto examples of MEN being violent. They really are stupid aren't they.

What is this mess of a statement. The use of ‘cis women’ is a clue.

MarkWithaC · 19/04/2025 19:41

peakadulting · 19/04/2025 19:37

Just seen letters in the Guardian actually include some in support of women's rights!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/18/supreme-court-ruling-on-legal-definition-of-a-woman-divides-opinion

And that one from the woman whose trans kid doesn't drink water at school and gets dehydrated because they're scared to use the loo designated for their own sex/opposite gender. Like that's not happening to girls who just want to use the girls' loos Hmm

BiologicalRobot · 19/04/2025 20:00

EasternStandard · 19/04/2025 19:38

What is this mess of a statement. The use of ‘cis women’ is a clue.

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Sorry, thought I had quoted Knotty. It’s from this article.

KnottyAuty · Today 18:37
Less happy about this:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/19/transgender-activists-deface-millicent-fawcett-statue/
https://archive.is/6vjUz

TheOtherRaven · 19/04/2025 21:51

“It shouldn’t have taken three brave women to take on the state to expose the folly and consequences of gender ideology. It should never have been able to find its way through any parliament where legislators were doing their job with rigorous scrutiny, based on evidence and facts, as opposed to the demands and ideology from pressure groups.”

Ash Regan nails it.

Supporterofwomensrights · 19/04/2025 22:47

We're ten pages in and I can't keep up with all the apologies that are pouring in for treating women as sub-human and completely disregarding children's safeguarding.

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 22:51

Supporterofwomensrights · 19/04/2025 22:47

We're ten pages in and I can't keep up with all the apologies that are pouring in for treating women as sub-human and completely disregarding children's safeguarding.

Me too. I have managed to catch the posts of quite a few trans allies though who didn't get the satire of the thread title tho, so that was fun

OneGreatReader · 20/04/2025 05:21

Waitwhat23 · 18/04/2025 22:10

Actually, seriously, how dare you.

Even just in Edinburgh and the Lothians, women have been denied access to the single sex rape crisis services they needed. A 15 year old girl who had been gang raped was denied single sex care. Women who had been been raped were turned away from services and told to 'reframe their trauma' and lied to by a staff who considered their ideology more important than the women they were meant to help. Women who wanted the choice to request (not demand, but simply request) a female medical examiner after their rape were told they were bigots by their own elected representatives.

Seriously, how dare you

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Why are you so outraged?

Do you think that biological women are the only people who get raped ?

Do you think their resulting trauma is greater than everyone else's?

It is a tragedy when anybody gets raped or abused.It does not matter what the type of abuse is - whether the abuse is sexual, physical, emotional, spiritual, ritual or any other type of abuse. All victims of abuse are left traumatised and each and every one deserves our empathy.

OneGreatReader · 20/04/2025 06:05

Waitwhat23 · 18/04/2025 22:10

Actually, seriously, how dare you.

Even just in Edinburgh and the Lothians, women have been denied access to the single sex rape crisis services they needed. A 15 year old girl who had been gang raped was denied single sex care. Women who had been been raped were turned away from services and told to 'reframe their trauma' and lied to by a staff who considered their ideology more important than the women they were meant to help. Women who wanted the choice to request (not demand, but simply request) a female medical examiner after their rape were told they were bigots by their own elected representatives.

Seriously, how dare you

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Have you ever attended group therapy sessions at a recovery centre for people who have been abused?

If you have, you might be aware that the type of experience that you described in your post is not unusual. Such experiences are relatively commonplace in the stories of survivors of abuse - those of both male survivors and female survivors - especially if the abuse took place when the person was a child. Often the trauma resulting from the secondary emotional abuse is worse than the trauma resulting from the primary abuse. It is tragic I agree, but certainly not an experience that is unique to women.

Igneococcus · 20/04/2025 06:36

OneGreatReader · 20/04/2025 06:05

Have you ever attended group therapy sessions at a recovery centre for people who have been abused?

If you have, you might be aware that the type of experience that you described in your post is not unusual. Such experiences are relatively commonplace in the stories of survivors of abuse - those of both male survivors and female survivors - especially if the abuse took place when the person was a child. Often the trauma resulting from the secondary emotional abuse is worse than the trauma resulting from the primary abuse. It is tragic I agree, but certainly not an experience that is unique to women.

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The fact that abuse happens to both sexes doesn't mean women (or men) shouldn't be able to request single sex support services and be called bigots if they do so.

334bu · 20/04/2025 07:06

Igneococcus · 20/04/2025 06:44

Hits the nail on the head. Thank you for share token.

TheSouthTonight · 20/04/2025 07:13

Worth reminding you all that the Daily Mail as well as supporting various worthy causes, was also pretty pro-Hitler in the 1930s and isn't exactly anti-Trump now. And neither of them were/are that keen on women's rights...

Igneococcus · 20/04/2025 07:15

TheSouthTonight · 20/04/2025 07:13

Worth reminding you all that the Daily Mail as well as supporting various worthy causes, was also pretty pro-Hitler in the 1930s and isn't exactly anti-Trump now. And neither of them were/are that keen on women's rights...

And that reflects badly on the court's ruling or what are you trying to say?

Kucinghitam · 20/04/2025 07:16

OneGreatReader · 18/04/2025 21:22

Celebrating causing immense psychological trauma to hundreds of thousands of people in this country is sickening. There are many in the transgender community who are currently feeling suicidal as a result of the Supreme Courts ruling. They are feeling like they have just been raped.

The lack of empathy shown towards those negatively affected by this ruling by those who support the ruling and were involved in getting it, is way more frightening then any alleged threat posed by members of the trans community sharing women only spaces.

Just bumping this so all lurkers can see The Right Side of History.

"Raped"

TheSouthTonight · 20/04/2025 07:52

Igneococcus · 20/04/2025 07:15

And that reflects badly on the court's ruling or what are you trying to say?

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That the Daily Mail is hardly a supporter of women's rights and they have their own reasons for supporting this and they may be your friends now but I wouldn't trust them as far as you can throw them. I'm making no judgements on the court ruling. The court interpreted the law as it stands.

Appalonia · 20/04/2025 07:54

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 18:37

There's over 2000 comments under that article. The TRAs haven't done themselves any favours, judging by the reaction...

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