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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

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IwantToRetire · 25/03/2025 22:38

The Trump administration is planning to freeze tens of millions of dollars in federal grants to organizations providing family planning and other reproductive health services, as it reviews whether the funds violate the president’s order to cease all government-backed diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work.

A Health and Human Services spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal, which reported on the plan, that the department was reviewing grants to make sure they complied with the crackdown on DEI.

The freeze to the Title X program could impact as much as $120 million worth of grants to a network of roughly 4,000 clinics providing free and discounted pregnancy testing, contraception, sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment, and evaluations and testing for infertility.

Planned Parenthood, whose affiliates could lose roughly $20 million if the paused grants are ultimately cut, reacted with alarm.

“The Trump-Vance-Musk administration wants to shut down Planned Parenthood health centers by any means necessary, and they’ll end people’s access to birth control, cancer screenings, STI testing and treatment, and more to do it,” Planned Parenthood Federation of America CEO Alex McGill Johnson told the newspaper.

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Change could impact thousands of clinics providing contraception and sexually transmitted infection testing

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

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PippistrelleBat · 26/03/2025 22:57

this thread many posters don't prioritise poor marginalised women and their access to healthcare

Which marginalised women in the UK are unable to access healthcare? The only ones I can think of are those who are not able to share spaces with men or are unable to access language which reduces women to bodily functions.

Why do you keep expecting British women to campaign in elections on American political issues?

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 22:59

withthegreatestrespect · 26/03/2025 22:48

Oh good god. Where to start with this???

Start anywhere you like, but just start.

Because there is no explanation that Mumsnet FWR have for their wholesale failure to and sell out of women.

All they have in their repertoire, the only thing they have to pull out of their party bag, is the demonisation of trans people.

Which Trump and his ilk gladly seize upon to bolster and legitimize their devastation of women's rights.

Talk about handmaidens eh.

PippistrelleBat · 26/03/2025 22:59

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 22:55

Those groups also face other issues relating to their rights as women unrelated to that ideology, that the right wing will only make worse. What's your feminist positions on those groups unrelated to the trans issue?

We have a left wing government.

withthegreatestrespect · 26/03/2025 23:01

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 22:55

Those groups also face other issues relating to their rights as women unrelated to that ideology, that the right wing will only make worse. What's your feminist positions on those groups unrelated to the trans issue?

You called my use of 'abortion leash' minimising the discussion. Yet you say 'trans rights' as if it's a trivial issue

Where do you stand on men being allowed to identify as women thereby removing the very sex-class that you say you are fighting for?

TempestTost · 26/03/2025 23:05

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 22:35

Which is a massive roll back on women's rights, something some usually very vocal posters on FWR have little to say about. Maybe suggestions had a point that not every poster here claiming to support women's sex based rights actually does.

I live in a place with a federal system of government, I don't agree that rights are less real because they are held at the level of state rather than at the federal level. In very large countries like the US I think it can be more appropriate for important issues to be dealt with at that level and allows citizens more direct influence on policy and law where they live.

I also never thought Roe vs Wade was a very good ruling, legally, and I am not all that keen on courts taking on what should be therole of legislators anyway.

None of that is really about women's rights, it's about a view of governance. I think bad governance is a mistake, even if it seems to give you the results you want, because eventually, it will fail in important ways, and not just on one particular issue, but it will lead to massive problems.

If you think that every opinion that doesn't agree with yours is some kind of anti-woman bot or fake poster, then I think you have a very narrow perspective.

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 23:06

FlirtsWithRhinos · 26/03/2025 22:55

Yes, that is what they do. They make no bones about it. The people who vote for them want it.

I'm not into performative handwringing about how dreadful it all is. We know that.

I'm into what needs to be done to stop it happening. And that means for now donating and supporting organisations which are active on the ground which I have already said I do, and for the longer term having a credible opposition that people want to vote for, which is what the Democrats failed to do this time round and is why I am talking about what the Left got wrong and why ignoring that in favour of saying how gosh-darn-awful the right are is the wrong tactic.

But tell me, what do you think needs to be done to stop this?

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I was wondering how long it would be until the word performative got dragged out, of course discussing the right wing attack on women's rights can only be performative and totally unnecessary in these times when they are amping up their agenda. I would think you had more of a point if this board throughout the democrats term and election wasn't also so flooded with people also shutting down discussion on the right wing and their agenda. Performative and purity obsession were dragged out then too because we had to focus on what the left were getting wrong. When are people allowed to talk about it?

But tell me, what do you think needs to be done to stop this?
I completely agree with you about having a better left wing opposition in order to counter the right. But I also think that to protect women's rights we can't get into bed with people with people that have a right wing patrichal agenda and that it needs to be called out when it's obvious.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:08

FlirtsWithRhinos · 26/03/2025 22:55

Yes, that is what they do. They make no bones about it. The people who vote for them want it.

I'm not into performative handwringing about how dreadful it all is. We know that.

I'm into what needs to be done to stop it happening. And that means for now donating and supporting organisations which are active on the ground which I have already said I do, and for the longer term having a credible opposition that people want to vote for, which is what the Democrats failed to do this time round and is why I am talking about what the Left got wrong and why ignoring that in favour of saying how gosh-darn-awful the right are is the wrong tactic.

But tell me, what do you think needs to be done to stop this?

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Feminists need to oppose it.

BraveSirRobinRanaway · 26/03/2025 23:11

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 22:38

Again, you don't have to police your language if your focus is solely on stopping CSH and your happy to sacrifice women's access to abortion in the process. If you cared about attacks on women's healthcare clinics, you would. So why don't you just say where you're coming from?

I refer you to my earlier posts on this.

Why are you so desperate to make this a binary choice and make us out to be the bad guys? I’ve said more than once that women’s access to reproductive healthcare including abortion is very important. I also think that not ruining kids health is important. Why don’t you?

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 23:14

TempestTost · 26/03/2025 23:05

I live in a place with a federal system of government, I don't agree that rights are less real because they are held at the level of state rather than at the federal level. In very large countries like the US I think it can be more appropriate for important issues to be dealt with at that level and allows citizens more direct influence on policy and law where they live.

I also never thought Roe vs Wade was a very good ruling, legally, and I am not all that keen on courts taking on what should be therole of legislators anyway.

None of that is really about women's rights, it's about a view of governance. I think bad governance is a mistake, even if it seems to give you the results you want, because eventually, it will fail in important ways, and not just on one particular issue, but it will lead to massive problems.

If you think that every opinion that doesn't agree with yours is some kind of anti-woman bot or fake poster, then I think you have a very narrow perspective.

It's not about agreeing with me or not. It's about access to abortion as a feminist principal. Agree with it being allocated to a state level when some states are affectively rolling that back completely if you want, but you're supporting states being able to enact their anti women agenda.

In very large countries like the US I think it can be more appropriate for important issues to be dealt with at that level and allows citizens more direct influence on policy and law where they live.I also never thought Roe vs Wade was a very good ruling, legally, and I am not all that keen on courts taking on what should be therole of legislators anyway.

See I don't think there a feminist argument to be made for supporting citizens being more able to influence law and policy to restrict abortion, likewise legislators. It's depressing that feminist gains on abortion were only marginal, protecting it in principal but still not achieving in removing the state from our own private medical decisions about our pregnancies and trusting women to make that decision for themselves, and yet people are happy to roll it back further.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:16

PippistrelleBat · 26/03/2025 22:59

We have a left wing government.

The Labour government in the UK has come down hard on the use of puberty blockers in the UK. Harder than the Tory government under whom the trans shitshow happened.

Trump could do it with a stroke of his sharpie.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ban-on-puberty-blockers-to-be-made-indefinite-on-experts-advice

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 23:20

Who's making you out to be bad guys? And I refer you to all my previous posts on the context of attacks on PP funding and clinicians particularly this from my post you were responding to but didn't address.

It's been a longheld argument that any government funding to PP could be reallocated to abortion wh
ich is why they don't want it to get any funding at all. Supporting any cuts to PP is not in the interest of women health or their rights.

PippistrelleBat · 26/03/2025 23:25

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:16

The Labour government in the UK has come down hard on the use of puberty blockers in the UK. Harder than the Tory government under whom the trans shitshow happened.

Trump could do it with a stroke of his sharpie.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ban-on-puberty-blockers-to-be-made-indefinite-on-experts-advice

The Tory Government banned puberty blockers. The Labour government are proposing giving them to children as an unethical trial with only two years followup.

withthegreatestrespect · 26/03/2025 23:26

But I also think that to protect women's rights we can't get into bed with people with people that have a right wing patrichal agenda and that it needs to be called out when it's obvious.

I suspect this is the fault line that is causing some of the tensions in this thread. It is not just women's rights for many of us. It is child safeguarding too. I will take a child safeguarding win wherever I see it.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:29

PippistrelleBat · 26/03/2025 23:25

The Tory Government banned puberty blockers. The Labour government are proposing giving them to children as an unethical trial with only two years followup.

Yeah.
Temporarily.
Eight weeks before the 2024 GE.

Too little too late from the government who promoted, presided over and funded the trans shitshow in the UK.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:33

withthegreatestrespect · 26/03/2025 23:26

But I also think that to protect women's rights we can't get into bed with people with people that have a right wing patrichal agenda and that it needs to be called out when it's obvious.

I suspect this is the fault line that is causing some of the tensions in this thread. It is not just women's rights for many of us. It is child safeguarding too. I will take a child safeguarding win wherever I see it.

Women do not need to forfeit hard won rights to safeguard children. Any system that makes women choose is a manipulative, abusive and misogynist.

withthegreatestrespect · 26/03/2025 23:39

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:33

Women do not need to forfeit hard won rights to safeguard children. Any system that makes women choose is a manipulative, abusive and misogynist.

Which accurately describes both left and right to me in 2025. Good night and, genuinely, thanks for the discussion

PippistrelleBat · 26/03/2025 23:42

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:29

Yeah.
Temporarily.
Eight weeks before the 2024 GE.

Too little too late from the government who promoted, presided over and funded the trans shitshow in the UK.

The GRA was a Labour Act, as was the inclusion of ‘gender reassignment’ in the Equality act. Labour are now planning on giving children puberty blockers again. Labour are allowing all NHS organisations to discriminate against women by allowing men onto women’s wards and changing rooms. Labour turned down calls for a parliamentary inquiry into grooming gangs. Labour turned down calls to make sex mean sex within the Equality Act. Labour halted then watered down provisions to protect academic freedoms in universities…

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:45

What's that got to do with Trump destroying women's services in the US?

PippistrelleBat · 26/03/2025 23:54

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/03/2025 23:45

What's that got to do with Trump destroying women's services in the US?

Why is that the responsibility of British women? We are fighting to protect women’s rights from a misogynistic left wing UK government.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/03/2025 00:00

The Trump administration's misogyny is not the responsibility of British women. That's a mad take on this thread.🤯

PippistrelleBat · 27/03/2025 00:08

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/03/2025 00:00

The Trump administration's misogyny is not the responsibility of British women. That's a mad take on this thread.🤯

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You think it is? That is taking me back a few years to posters arguing women in FWR were responsible for all the evils of the world. Oh the power we had!

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/03/2025 00:20

Of course I don't think it is. As I said, that's a mad thing to take from this thread.🤯

PippistrelleBat · 27/03/2025 00:26

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/03/2025 00:20

Of course I don't think it is. As I said, that's a mad thing to take from this thread.🤯

🙄

JohnnyRememberMe · 27/03/2025 07:38

Trump does something bad and that's the fault of women on a British website? ODFOD.

ArabellaScott · 27/03/2025 07:50

PippistrelleBat · 26/03/2025 23:42

The GRA was a Labour Act, as was the inclusion of ‘gender reassignment’ in the Equality act. Labour are now planning on giving children puberty blockers again. Labour are allowing all NHS organisations to discriminate against women by allowing men onto women’s wards and changing rooms. Labour turned down calls for a parliamentary inquiry into grooming gangs. Labour turned down calls to make sex mean sex within the Equality Act. Labour halted then watered down provisions to protect academic freedoms in universities…

And are now slashing benefits, which will impact hardest on women.

We don't have a leftwing party in the UK anymore.

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