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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

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IwantToRetire · 25/03/2025 22:38

The Trump administration is planning to freeze tens of millions of dollars in federal grants to organizations providing family planning and other reproductive health services, as it reviews whether the funds violate the president’s order to cease all government-backed diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work.

A Health and Human Services spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal, which reported on the plan, that the department was reviewing grants to make sure they complied with the crackdown on DEI.

The freeze to the Title X program could impact as much as $120 million worth of grants to a network of roughly 4,000 clinics providing free and discounted pregnancy testing, contraception, sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment, and evaluations and testing for infertility.

Planned Parenthood, whose affiliates could lose roughly $20 million if the paused grants are ultimately cut, reacted with alarm.

“The Trump-Vance-Musk administration wants to shut down Planned Parenthood health centers by any means necessary, and they’ll end people’s access to birth control, cancer screenings, STI testing and treatment, and more to do it,” Planned Parenthood Federation of America CEO Alex McGill Johnson told the newspaper.

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Change could impact thousands of clinics providing contraception and sexually transmitted infection testing

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/03/2025 08:49

Well well suggestions is back to lecture us!! It’s been soooo long 😁😁 I see the finger is already wagging to say you bad bad women

NotBadConsidering · 26/03/2025 08:51

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 08:48

They have access to data on posting patterns, ISPs and use of VPNs.

And are the VPNs in the room with us right now?

illinivich · 26/03/2025 08:51

They have access to data on posting patterns, ISPs and use of VPNs.

Is this a threat?

PermanentTemporary · 26/03/2025 08:52

I'm fully on the side that sees this ultra right wing administration using any weapon it can to eliminate women's ability to control their own lives, bodies and future. Republicans have focused on attacking Planned Parenthood for decades because it removes sex education and gynaecological care including abortion access from total control by parents, churches and the commercial medicine industry.

I believe that the vast majority of 'trans youth' are carrying out a medicated form of self harm as a coping strategy for other things. I believe those policies should change. But attacking Planned Parenthood is the aim, not helping women and girls.

illinivich · 26/03/2025 08:54

PP are doing this to themselves.

If their focus is on contraception, reduction of STI and terminations of pregnancies, they should do that, not help sterilised young women in the name of sn ideology.

NecessaryScene · 26/03/2025 08:56

But attacking Planned Parenthood is the aim, not helping women and girls.

If people believe that's the case - and it is certainly possible - then PP has the perfect means to demonstrate that - calling the admin's bluff and saying, "okay we'll stop doing cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers and only provide sex education and gynaecological care. Are you going to leave us alone now?"

But as long as PP is doing what they're doing, then they're giving the Republicans perfect cover, because what the Republicans are doing can be justified, and is right, regardless of motivation.

So why would PP want to give the Republicans cover on this? Do they think women's health is a game?

AlisonDonut · 26/03/2025 08:57

illinivich · 26/03/2025 08:51

They have access to data on posting patterns, ISPs and use of VPNs.

Is this a threat?

It does kinda look like it.

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 08:59

AlisonDonut · 26/03/2025 08:57

It does kinda look like it.

No threat whatsoever, just pointing out that Mumsnet are aware of how FWR is targeted, as it seems like many posters don't know this.

NotBadConsidering · 26/03/2025 09:00

Republicans have focused on attacking Planned Parenthood for decades because it removes sex education and gynaecological care including abortion access from total control by parents, churches and the commercial medicine industry.

Yet despite decades of attacks based on abortion control, PP has survived. Clearly the organisation can’t be beaten if it keeps its focus on safe healthcare for women. So it would be tragic if they didn’t survive this attack because they remain steadfastly committed to sterilising children as well and that was their final undoing.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/03/2025 09:01

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 08:28

I mean it sounds to me that folk are pointing out the bleeding obvious: that Mumsnet FWR is (and always has been) used by posters with an ultimate patriarchal agenda to manipulate those who are naive enough to believe that trans rights are the single biggest issue facing women today.

So that is used as a smokescreen to convince women to agree with the wholesale devastation of reproductive services that are proven to save lives.

Because someone, somewhere was given testosterone once, right? So therefore we must stop access to all those life saving abortions, contraception, support for rape victims, treatment and prevention of STIs.

This board is not populated in the main by women who care about women, it is populated by those fueling an agenda that will ultimately work against women. As this thread demonstrates.

Mumsnet HR are fully aware of this by the way, they have access to the posting stats.

The dislike of women drips out of this post.
Next it'll be the misandry of women and our bigotry for speaking about safeguarding children.

Sad.

finallydecorating · 26/03/2025 09:05

NotBadConsidering · 26/03/2025 08:44

I thought this thread had gone weird, then good old TRAs showed up with their bonkers conspiracy theories about how we’re all trying to force births on women and now it’s really gone 😜.

The Trump administration is targeting PP funding for its DEI work. The most obvious DEI work that PP does is sterilise children with “gender affirming care”. Ergo, PP are at risk of losing their funding for the good work they do with abortion and contraception because of the malpractice they do in other areas. It’s that simple.

Anyone who thinks that’s “anti women” or that pointing that out is part of a force birthing smokescreen from us all is really scraping the barrel.

You don't think the Trump administration is anti-women? Have you been living under a rock?

It's possible to be both anti-trans (which the Trump administration are, and is different thing from being feminist and recognising a clash of rights exists) and anti-women.

I've been on these threads for many years now, the polarisation is getting extreme here.

Yes, Planned Parenthood has been responsible for an absolute shameful programme of sterilising and harming vulnerable youth including gender non-conforming, same sex attracted, autistic or sexually abused DC and young people, compounding their issues.

However, there is a huge and well funded campaign against women's reproductive rights in the US and to frame discussion of that as conspiracy theory shows you're either incredibly poorly informed or so radicalised you're desperate to defend Trump at all costs.

Either way, give your head a wobble. Trump isn't banning Planned Parenthood from dishing out blockers and hormones, he's saying they're going to freeze all funding. That will impact women's and girls' access to reproductive health, and if you can't see that or don't care, you're really not a feminist.

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 09:06

NecessaryScene · 26/03/2025 08:56

But attacking Planned Parenthood is the aim, not helping women and girls.

If people believe that's the case - and it is certainly possible - then PP has the perfect means to demonstrate that - calling the admin's bluff and saying, "okay we'll stop doing cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers and only provide sex education and gynaecological care. Are you going to leave us alone now?"

But as long as PP is doing what they're doing, then they're giving the Republicans perfect cover, because what the Republicans are doing can be justified, and is right, regardless of motivation.

So why would PP want to give the Republicans cover on this? Do they think women's health is a game?

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This, exactly. All they have to do is stop the unevidenced medical experimentation. Why won't they do that to ensure women and girls have access to contraception and gynecological care?

Why is a trans former employee of PP whistleblowing? Things must be very bad for them to do so. It must be an absolutely terrifying thing to do, the harms they have seen must be very bad.

illinivich · 26/03/2025 09:10

This is a good opportunity to see how TRA piggybacking on established organisations and movements eventually take them over and compromise their ability to do the work they are set up to do.

If PP cannot bring itself to stop prescribing testosterone even though they believe lack of funding will lead to the death of women, what has happened to them?

Rather than compromise on this, why not see that PP is no longer for for purpose and established new organisations?

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 09:10

NecessaryScene · 26/03/2025 08:56

But attacking Planned Parenthood is the aim, not helping women and girls.

If people believe that's the case - and it is certainly possible - then PP has the perfect means to demonstrate that - calling the admin's bluff and saying, "okay we'll stop doing cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers and only provide sex education and gynaecological care. Are you going to leave us alone now?"

But as long as PP is doing what they're doing, then they're giving the Republicans perfect cover, because what the Republicans are doing can be justified, and is right, regardless of motivation.

So why would PP want to give the Republicans cover on this? Do they think women's health is a game?

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But as long as PP is doing what they're doing, then they're giving the Republicans perfect cover, because what the Republicans are doing can be justified, and is right, regardless of motivation.

This is very naive, as though the republicans and right wing interests haven't been attacking PP relentlessly before the trans issue. You really think they would stop? Do you truly believe the Republicans actually have an issue solely with the 35k or so patients they see for hormones and not the millions of patients they see for contraception or abortion? Or have they just found an angle that has got you supporting the withdrawal of life saving services for women. PP have always operated on the principal of bodily autonomy and access to healthcare for our bodies whether people politically agree with it or not. As far as I can see, PP don't do puberty blockers. They do cross sex hormones for adults (and 16+ with parental consent), any argument you want to use to support revoking the right of those people to access that care because you dislike it could and is used to argue against access to contraception and abortion.

Beowulfa · 26/03/2025 09:10

This board is not populated in the main by women who care about women, it is populated by those fueling an agenda that will ultimately work against women.

I strongly refute this offensive claim by suggestionsplease1. This board is stuffed full of women who care passionately about women; from issues relating to sexual violence, teenage mental health, sport, toilet design, education and employment rights.

I think it is genuinely appalling behaviour to imply the majority are following some kind of sinister agenda that needs monitoring by Mumsnet HQ.

PermanentTemporary · 26/03/2025 09:15

I agree that anyone who thinks PP will be 'safe' if it stops providing cross-sex hormones is naive, or thinks other people are. Musk wasn't waving a chainsaw around for nothing. Paula Leslie flogging indulgences in the White House isn't a feminist act.

Musk says his child died because they transitioned. That IS anti trans.

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:17

Beowulfa · 26/03/2025 09:10

This board is not populated in the main by women who care about women, it is populated by those fueling an agenda that will ultimately work against women.

I strongly refute this offensive claim by suggestionsplease1. This board is stuffed full of women who care passionately about women; from issues relating to sexual violence, teenage mental health, sport, toilet design, education and employment rights.

I think it is genuinely appalling behaviour to imply the majority are following some kind of sinister agenda that needs monitoring by Mumsnet HQ.

And yet so many unprepared to stand up for the rights of millions of women to access life saving treatment, and happy to have this shut down for them.

NotBadConsidering · 26/03/2025 09:18

finallydecorating · 26/03/2025 09:05

You don't think the Trump administration is anti-women? Have you been living under a rock?

It's possible to be both anti-trans (which the Trump administration are, and is different thing from being feminist and recognising a clash of rights exists) and anti-women.

I've been on these threads for many years now, the polarisation is getting extreme here.

Yes, Planned Parenthood has been responsible for an absolute shameful programme of sterilising and harming vulnerable youth including gender non-conforming, same sex attracted, autistic or sexually abused DC and young people, compounding their issues.

However, there is a huge and well funded campaign against women's reproductive rights in the US and to frame discussion of that as conspiracy theory shows you're either incredibly poorly informed or so radicalised you're desperate to defend Trump at all costs.

Either way, give your head a wobble. Trump isn't banning Planned Parenthood from dishing out blockers and hormones, he's saying they're going to freeze all funding. That will impact women's and girls' access to reproductive health, and if you can't see that or don't care, you're really not a feminist.

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You don't think the Trump administration is anti-women? Have you been living under a rock?

Not a single one of my posts, particularly the one you quoted, is remotely suggesting that the Trump administration is not anti-women. There was an accusation of being anti women for pointing out the trans element of Planned Parenthood’s work which is likely contributing to this review of their funding.

Have a re-read of the thread.

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 09:22

NotBadConsidering · 26/03/2025 08:44

I thought this thread had gone weird, then good old TRAs showed up with their bonkers conspiracy theories about how we’re all trying to force births on women and now it’s really gone 😜.

The Trump administration is targeting PP funding for its DEI work. The most obvious DEI work that PP does is sterilise children with “gender affirming care”. Ergo, PP are at risk of losing their funding for the good work they do with abortion and contraception because of the malpractice they do in other areas. It’s that simple.

Anyone who thinks that’s “anti women” or that pointing that out is part of a force birthing smokescreen from us all is really scraping the barrel.

Wild, isn't it?

It's pretty clear to me who mostly posts on FWR - feminists, mothers, women, in the main. UK based, a mixture politically but roughly centrist overall.

And who tries to shut FWR down?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5302188-barclays-boss-who-cancelled-mumsnet-turn-out-to-be-a-pal-of-jeffrey-epstein?reply=143110201

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 09:23

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:17

And yet so many unprepared to stand up for the rights of millions of women to access life saving treatment, and happy to have this shut down for them.

Bollocks.

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 09:25

Literally no one has supported Trump temporarily freezing PP's government funding.

What we're doing is looking at the evidence, and wondering why in the face of what the administration says is a temporary freeze, PP are making political statements rather than taking the opportunity to ditch the experimental unevidenced child sterilization (with increasing evidence of harm and long term chronic health problems) and instead focus on support for women and girls reproductive healthcare.

If an organization says they care about women's reproductive health but then sterilizes young girls, I tend not to believe them.

Also, have they learned nothing about Trump? Overt anti-Trump political activism is hardly likely to make him want to give them money. It's so stupid.

illinivich · 26/03/2025 09:27

PP have a choice, either call Trumps bluff and stop giving teenagers testosterone on demand, or find alternative funding.

Claiming women in the UK are against womens rights is probably a fun thing to do, but it isnt going to actually solve anything, unless the intention is to close PP and blame 'Terfs'.

Beowulfa · 26/03/2025 09:35

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:17

And yet so many unprepared to stand up for the rights of millions of women to access life saving treatment, and happy to have this shut down for them.

Please quote the posts on this thread that show smiley/cheering emojis at this news. All I can see is jaded weariness that once again women and girls get shat on by the infestation of formerly sensible institutions by gender ideology.

is Trump's approach blunt, crass and unnecessarily sledgehammer/nut? Of course- that's his thing. Has PP put itself in a position to be vulnerable to a wildcard politician- yes.

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 09:39

There's more than one post on here referring to young women 18+ as teens or children, or generalising all of the PP patients who access hormones as children despite all the evidence that the majority are adults. The infantalising language coming from feminists is weird and the suggestion that they should capitulate to right wing demands is ridiculous. How many conservatives will agree with contraception but not abortion? Loads of them would be happy for PP to cut abortion but retain all other gynaecological care, should PP bow to this?

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:40

Beowulfa · 26/03/2025 09:35

Please quote the posts on this thread that show smiley/cheering emojis at this news. All I can see is jaded weariness that once again women and girls get shat on by the infestation of formerly sensible institutions by gender ideology.

is Trump's approach blunt, crass and unnecessarily sledgehammer/nut? Of course- that's his thing. Has PP put itself in a position to be vulnerable to a wildcard politician- yes.

You know, so much of this thread just sounds like an apologist's creed for Trump's overarching ultimate political agenda to keep women in their place.

Well done everyone on helping him out.