People missing out on cancer screening recalls to due gender not sex being recorded.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sex-data-gender-identity-nhs-police-review-b2718090.html

If only someone could have foreseen this!

Shelagh Fogarty covering this now on LBC. She wants to hear our views
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Are you aware of an increase in cervical cancer in the population of trans men?
There are also a very reasonable amount of screening samples being processed for people registered as male, given the trans male population isn't large, it does seem they attending.
If they were recorded as male with a marker that they're a trans man, and therefore invited automatically, would you be happier?

Transmen have female bodies, which is why they need a smear. Marking on their health records that they have a female body in the sex markers box would mean that they would be invited for the smears that they need, particularly given the increased risk.

Yes, that would be a more sensible approach in terms of ensuring they get the healthcare they need.

The Jo's trust website has been taken down now I think, but I'm fairly sure they had data that suggested trans men were significantly less likely to attend.

It can’t be ignorance and it’s not a kindness. I think it’s cowardice.

Somebody else's and everyone else's of course! Never, ever the actual person trying to identify as the opposite sex.. never ever!!
"How dare not accept what I want to be!! Evil transphobe die in a grease fire!!!'
'Then how dare you deny me this health care!!! This is your plot to wipe us all out!!! BIGOT!!'

Honestly I’m tired of the whole thing. The NHS has been totally captured, and they should have known better, but I’ve given up thinking good people will always do the right thing. As for trans people themselves, they are also responsible for this mess. They have personal responsibility for their own health. For years we’ve had to listen to them bleat on about their felt experience, well here we go - feel your way out of cancer.

Ok but if the system works without them being recorded as female, then you're happy right?

Jos trust is sadly gone, it didn't get enough funding to continue which is sad as it was an amazing resource for patients.

FOR CRYING OUT FUCKING LOUD.

Stop trying to twist words.
Again for the hard of thinking: only. Women. Have. A. Cervid.
Transwomen don't have a cervix (because they're men)
Men don't have a cervix.

That doesn't mean, by any stretch of your fevered imagination that ALL women have a cervix.

Have you got all the screenshots you wanted?

Yes I'm aware, it was very unfortunate.

give figures for that please.

Quantify "a lot" in terms of how many women have no cervix (no cheating: we are talking about actual women, not wannabe women)

Screenshots for what? What words of yours did I twist exactly?

it literally is lying.

If a transman says they are male, they are lying to themselves, the HCP entering their details and the rest of the world.

If they then get cancer of the cervix - that is on them and nobody else.

I mean at least 50k+ hysterectomies happen each year, most being total although probably more. We don't record figures of every operation people have privately for example. Plenty of other young women with cancer have a radical trachelectomy to remove only the cervix and leave the uterus. Again these stats aren't all combined. Then there's women who have undergone some kind of radiation and aren't eligible for screening despite their cervix in place. You could do all the research and add these up if you want, I'm not going to for you.
Not all women have a cervix is a pretty simple fact hence a marker as female is not a 100% guarantee of eligibility for cervical screening as I said.

Ok so not your concern then, maybe don't get so het up about it you start typing in all caps then 🙃

In meetings between health ministers and the nhs back in the 2000s, the made an active descision to allow the sex field to be either sex or gender depending on the patients wishes.

They could've introduced a new gender field and retained the sex field but didnt.

Thats why when they had initiatives around single sex wards, they knew they ment gender, but still advertised it as sex. And its why they have to warn people changing their marker about sex specific screening.

Whats odd about all if this is that it come as a surprised to the NHS, ministers and the media.

I think we all need to take responsibility and make sure we keep track of when smears are due.

I would like transmen to have good access to healthcare.

The current report, which is what we are discussing, says that cancer screenings have been missed because sex is not being properly recorded. So the current system isn't working. That's the point.

We are talking about transmen. Nobody is claiming transwomen have a cervix.

It doesn't say they've been missed, it says not invited which is the guidelines. How many trans men have missed their screening ?

We don't know, because there are no accurate records, surely that's the whole point?!?

We don't know because they're recorded as men!

The gender category is what has long existed on NHS systems. The error is that they were not designed with a sex category - The UK cervical screening programme is one of the oldest. Either way - this is largely clickbait nonsense. Ideally the computer system needs sorting out (but considering the general issue with IT in the NHS, this is unlikely to happen/ be costly).