People missing out on cancer screening recalls to due gender not sex being recorded.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sex-data-gender-identity-nhs-police-review-b2718090.html

If only someone could have foreseen this!

This is disingenuous, the gender categoryisthe sex category, it's only called gender because it was set up in the days when some people used gender as a "polite" word for sex.

Apart form Willoughby, Lammy, and who knows how many that are lying to themselves given that was said publicly by both.

NHS IT isnt really fit for purpose. The many (often clashing) systems its uses tend to only record gender. In an ideal world - this would be sorted, but it's affecting a pretty small number of people.

How disingenuous? That was the thinking when the systems were created.

The thing about sending out letters for screening is that you catch everyone who is needs one, and dont worry too much about mistakenly contacting people who dont.

So if a woman has just had a screening the date a letter is sent, or privately, or doesnt need one or doesnt want one. Its maybe annoying to get one. But no one will be missed out.

But those opting to make their sex marker on nhs record into a gender marker are opting to take themselves out of this recalling services. They are told this when they do it.

Nah. Don't overblow it - it's not proof transpeople are wrong/lying. Its just a IT problem.

Which bit am I missing and being disingenuous about? Where have I misunderstood biology? I haven't made any false claims about biology by saying there are women without cervix in existence and women with cervixes that are ineligible for cervical screening. Which women are missed by the language that references women with a cervix?

This article is really about a deficiency in an IT system. Not a massive conspiracy.

Yes exactly this. One of my family has an ileostomy. He still gets sent the bowel screening kit. On checking with his team, he was informed that he didn't need to take part. Far better to be included initially than to be ignored. The NHS IT systems have their issues but to deliberately cause confusion by altering your medical health records is just plain stupid.

This still doesn’t address the problem of being wrongly sexed in any emergency medical situation, it is just a factual falsehood.

What is wrong with recording sex and gender identity as separate fields? It is clear and accurate, reflects material reality and is pertinent to the medical situation.

Nonsense. When the systems were created, “gender” was used synonym for “sex”.

Gender identity is of very little practical interest when dealing with sexed bodies that metabolise and react to drugs differently depending on their sex.

The category was intended to record a person’s sex because it matters for good medical care.

I don't have any issue with systems recording a sex and gender identity tbh, it would be much more effective than the current system or the insistent people register solely as their biological sex.
With regards to the emergency medical care, while I get where you're coming from, HCPs don't rely solely on a record when someone is admitted in an emergency so I don't think their sex marker is going to cause some great error in an emergency scenario.

No IT system can cope with what TRA want.

They want for the NHS to pretend that gender identity is important and anything about sexed bodies not linked to one sex or the other.

So men/women/male/female is all gender identity, and uteruses, cervixes, breasts, testicles are all body parts that arent linked to being women or men or female or male.

Thats why we have phrases like 'people with cervixes'. Just people with random body parts. They piggyback onto medical patients, just as they piggyback onto feminism and gay rights. They are using others to suggest that isnt about their ideology, it for 'people' who have had hysterectomies

TRA want a system that has the patients name, their identity in a colourful font, followed by a list of body parts.

If TRA would be happy with the state recognising sex and gender identity as completely separate we wouldnt have the GRA.

The IT system didn't suddenly glitch one day all by itself.

The language has been changed, intentionally, by activists, to serve the purposes of gender ideology. This problem has been created by the pushing of political gender ideology, which called the pointing out of the obvious oncoming issues as 'bigotry'.

And the changing of documentation will have cost millions more than inviting people who can safely ignore it to screening. And puts off those who don't understand the ludicrous language. I've more concern for women and men who don't have English as a first language and find it confusing than I do for performative nonsense.

If they don't ask for the relevant screening due to their own delusions, well that's on them. Darwinism in action.

Since when was cervix or people ludicrous language for a cervical screening programme though? Even those with ESL can get information leaflets in their first language. Yes a high % of people can't locate the cervix but that doesn't mean they have no understanding of what a cervix is. It's odd that your concern regarding healthcare specifically doesn't apply to trans people. If they don't understand they have to attend it's Darwinism but you're worried that other people won't know they have to attend...?

And the changing of documentation will have cost millions more than inviting people who can safely ignore it to screening

One time change of wording is in no way millions of pounds more expensive than administering a screening programme to millions who aren't eligible for screening.

We are agreeing, it uses sex and gender interchangeably. If we were to design an ideal system today, it would be more useful for it to be based on sex.

Changing documentation, all the meetings about it etc, involving people like Stonewall costs a fuck ton. Much more than automated emails or texts.

And yes, I am more concerned about actual women and men understanding their needs than delusional people of either sex. Obviously I want them to get appropriate health care too, but as a small number of people I'd rather the majority had clear information.

Just go by chromosomes XX or XY
jeez it’s not hard.

XYY ?

Male, any Y is male.

But if the wording hasn't reduced the majority population attending screening (and it hasn't) and the inclusive language gets more of that small number of people attending, so overall the numbers attending screening increase - where's the loss in that situation?

If the wording on a screening letter says 'women and anyone with a cervix', its still only being sent to people with the marker female, not women who have changed it to male.

So the letter is only spreading trans ideology, not actually speaking to women with a male identity.

Why has someone posted XYY ?
male - any Y chromosome
female - XX
straight forward science