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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Non fatal strangulation and choking during sex

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ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 07:39

Grim read.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62zwy0nex0o

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oakleaffy · 13/03/2025 12:49

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 07:50

I was thinking about this yesterday. Why do men seem to enjoy it? DH does this to me every time we have sex… it’s never been discussed, it’s just “normal”.

Probably about power....and their rape fantasies.

That's horrible.

I'd 🛑 stop having sex with him if I were you- it's so dangerous.

You shouldn't have to put up with it, unless you expressly want to participate.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/03/2025 12:49

I just don’t understand why anyone, aside from a very tiny minority, would ever agree to it!

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/03/2025 12:49

Alittlebit9 · 13/03/2025 12:32

@ArabellaScott

“The liberation of women involves strangulation, fisting, pole-dancing, plastic surgery, and anal sex. What a world to pass on to our daughters”

Language like that isn’t helpful. Thankfully in this day and age you are perfectly entitled to not enjoy these things, but please don’t put others down for their own likes and dislikes.

Nobody is trying to put you down......it is more about taking a detached look at what 'liberation' is now supposed to involve for women. It is not the sort of liberation that women had thought they were striving for.

AnSolas · 13/03/2025 12:50

Alittlebit9 · 13/03/2025 12:32

@ArabellaScott

“The liberation of women involves strangulation, fisting, pole-dancing, plastic surgery, and anal sex. What a world to pass on to our daughters”

Language like that isn’t helpful. Thankfully in this day and age you are perfectly entitled to not enjoy these things, but please don’t put others down for their own likes and dislikes.

Why is that too blunt?

You are fine with telling women not to kink shame by clutching pearls.

But have an issue when @ArabellaScott points out that the "liberation" you seek to endorse is not always advantageous to the woman involved or women as a whole.

PermanentTemporary · 13/03/2025 12:50

Oh I'm sure lots of men would enjoy it - it's pretty much always men found dead alone with strangulation equipment. I have zero interest in strangling a partner due to the risks to both of us though.

LunaTheCat · 13/03/2025 12:51

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 07:50

I was thinking about this yesterday. Why do men seem to enjoy it? DH does this to me every time we have sex… it’s never been discussed, it’s just “normal”.

This is horrific. It is not normal. It is a severe form of abuse. Please contact someone straight away… women’s aid, the police… please do it..he may well kill you . Much love

DialSquare · 13/03/2025 12:52

Alittlebit9 · 13/03/2025 12:39

Okay I am going to step away from this thread that has clearly stepped back about 40 years, because god forbid women are allowed to enjoy and want more than laying on their back staring at the ceiling. I too wish you well, like I said - we will agree to disagree.

So because we don't want to risk our health, we're automatically lying on our back and looking at the ceiling?

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 13/03/2025 12:53

MeliusMoriQuamServire · 13/03/2025 12:35

I'm not really old, I'm 37.

What I find pathetic are the some WOMEN acting all cool and mighty: oh look at me, I'm so unique, cool and edgy, I luuuv me some 'breath play' (how can you feel cool and edgy using kindergarten terms, beats me), being fucked in the ass, slapped, spat at, bound up, being pissed on, yada yada, it's so liberating, sexy and safe, I enjoy it so much. With the undercurrent of 'I'm so fucking progressive, not like you, you old, boring, pearl clutching hags, whom no one wants anyway'

Enjoy it, I personally don't give a fuck, really. If your 'kind and loving partner you absolutely trust' accidentally chokes you to death one day, I'm sure he'll cry and be sorry, you'll be nice and dead and he'll continue his kind and loving life. But you chose this, so whatever, I can't muster any fucks to give.

What is not ok, is this shit being pushed as normal, 16 year old twits choking their timid 16 year old girlfriends who don't like it at all, and don't want it, but are afraid to say no, because 'everyone enjoys breath play' apparently. Except for frigid, boring grannies. And who wants to be a frigid, boring granny at 16.

And as for 'reasearched and safe', I remember being 16. Some of my similar aged boyfriends didn't know what a clit is and how to find it, and/or were gobsmacked that an actual girl has hair on her fanny or legs, because mags and porn showed them the shaved ones. I can imagine these boys sitting and studiously reading about safe strangulation, yep. Put your hands on the neck and squeeze, more like.

Or adult women, timid, shy, without much spine, people pleasers. Who won't say no for various reasons. And might end up dead or brain damaged as a result.

Pissing into each others mouths won't kill you. So whatever, some people claim to like it, and it shouldn't be made illegal. Choking kills. So that should be a crime.

This, absolutely this.

Derbee · 13/03/2025 12:53

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 08:44

We’re both mid-30s but have been together 15 years and this has always been a feature. The sex isn’t great tbh but we’ve always had trouble discussing sex/wants/dislikes etc

This is so upsetting and disturbing to read. You’ve struggled discussing sexual likes and dislikes, so he just does what he likes (even though it’s dangerous and you don’t like it) without discussion.

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/03/2025 12:54

Alittlebit9 · 13/03/2025 12:39

Okay I am going to step away from this thread that has clearly stepped back about 40 years, because god forbid women are allowed to enjoy and want more than laying on their back staring at the ceiling. I too wish you well, like I said - we will agree to disagree.

I don't think you can imagine the mind blowing, life enhancing sex I've had....none of it involved "staring at a ceiling"....but it was founded in love and deep respect. In fact the best sex is a deeply healing and transformative experience.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 12:55

DialSquare · 13/03/2025 12:52

So because we don't want to risk our health, we're automatically lying on our back and looking at the ceiling?

A dear friend of mine, in her 90s now, told me years back quite sharply that my generation weren't the first to ever have sex.

The curse of youth is to be ignorant of history, I think!

(And grammar, for that matter).

(I say youth - I'm in my 40s ffs!)

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LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 13/03/2025 12:55

DialSquare · 13/03/2025 12:52

So because we don't want to risk our health, we're automatically lying on our back and looking at the ceiling?

Don’t you know it’s empowering to let porn addled men strangle you? It’s the latest women’s liberation movement apparently. Ffs I despair.

TENSsion · 13/03/2025 12:55

Alittlebit9 · 13/03/2025 12:39

Okay I am going to step away from this thread that has clearly stepped back about 40 years, because god forbid women are allowed to enjoy and want more than laying on their back staring at the ceiling. I too wish you well, like I said - we will agree to disagree.

You’re so cool and edgy. What a great sex life you have. I wish my husband fantasised about murdering me while achieving orgasm. He must really love you. More than mine does who refuses to do anything that poses a risk to my life.

That better?

MissDoubleU · 13/03/2025 12:56

Take anal sex off the table for a second. Do you genuinely believe there is no pleasure to be found in anal play for women? There is no direct pleasure for a man if he puts a finger up there, or uses a butt plug. This is still something many do specifically to pleasure the receiving woman. This may not ever end in anal sex, particularly if the giver is also a woman.

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/03/2025 12:56

PermanentTemporary · 13/03/2025 12:50

Oh I'm sure lots of men would enjoy it - it's pretty much always men found dead alone with strangulation equipment. I have zero interest in strangling a partner due to the risks to both of us though.

Isn't that how Michael Hutchence died ..so called 'erotic asphyxiation'?

Datun · 13/03/2025 12:56

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/03/2025 12:49

Nobody is trying to put you down......it is more about taking a detached look at what 'liberation' is now supposed to involve for women. It is not the sort of liberation that women had thought they were striving for.

It's funny how the person who is liberated and empowered, is the one who won't engage.

I do find the issue interesting.

It's similar over threads on intimate shaving.

Many women, I think a lot of them younger, simply won't countenance that it's porn driven.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 12:58

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/03/2025 12:56

Isn't that how Michael Hutchence died ..so called 'erotic asphyxiation'?

Yep. Auto erotic asphyxiation in his case.

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TENSsion · 13/03/2025 12:58

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/03/2025 12:49

I just don’t understand why anyone, aside from a very tiny minority, would ever agree to it!

As @Alittlebit9 has exemplified perfectly, any woman who doesn’t participate is “boring in bed”

The social pressure of this being normalised , “everyone does it now”, “I have much better sex than anyone else” being pushed on inexperienced and impressionable young women and men.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 12:59

MissDoubleU · 13/03/2025 12:56

Take anal sex off the table for a second. Do you genuinely believe there is no pleasure to be found in anal play for women? There is no direct pleasure for a man if he puts a finger up there, or uses a butt plug. This is still something many do specifically to pleasure the receiving woman. This may not ever end in anal sex, particularly if the giver is also a woman.

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If anal sex is on the table I recommend a full kettle of boiling water before using for meals.

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Thegreatestgroaner · 13/03/2025 12:59

MeliusMoriQuamServire · 13/03/2025 12:35

I'm not really old, I'm 37.

What I find pathetic are the some WOMEN acting all cool and mighty: oh look at me, I'm so unique, cool and edgy, I luuuv me some 'breath play' (how can you feel cool and edgy using kindergarten terms, beats me), being fucked in the ass, slapped, spat at, bound up, being pissed on, yada yada, it's so liberating, sexy and safe, I enjoy it so much. With the undercurrent of 'I'm so fucking progressive, not like you, you old, boring, pearl clutching hags, whom no one wants anyway'

Enjoy it, I personally don't give a fuck, really. If your 'kind and loving partner you absolutely trust' accidentally chokes you to death one day, I'm sure he'll cry and be sorry, you'll be nice and dead and he'll continue his kind and loving life. But you chose this, so whatever, I can't muster any fucks to give.

What is not ok, is this shit being pushed as normal, 16 year old twits choking their timid 16 year old girlfriends who don't like it at all, and don't want it, but are afraid to say no, because 'everyone enjoys breath play' apparently. Except for frigid, boring grannies. And who wants to be a frigid, boring granny at 16.

And as for 'reasearched and safe', I remember being 16. Some of my similar aged boyfriends didn't know what a clit is and how to find it, and/or were gobsmacked that an actual girl has hair on her fanny or legs, because mags and porn showed them the shaved ones. I can imagine these boys sitting and studiously reading about safe strangulation, yep. Put your hands on the neck and squeeze, more like.

Or adult women, timid, shy, without much spine, people pleasers. Who won't say no for various reasons. And might end up dead or brain damaged as a result.

Pissing into each others mouths won't kill you. So whatever, some people claim to like it, and it shouldn't be made illegal. Choking kills. So that should be a crime.

Totally. My DD is 16, it’s scary

MissDoubleU · 13/03/2025 12:59

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 12:58

Yep. Auto erotic asphyxiation in his case.

Like I said however many pages ago. It is very popular among men, straight men, who wish only be on the receiving end. Because the act itself creates a specific high and heightens the orgasm. Not because it’s a murder fantasy.

Dangerous in the same way drugs are dangerous and people still risk it for that high.

Datun · 13/03/2025 13:00

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 12:59

If anal sex is on the table I recommend a full kettle of boiling water before using for meals.

Darling hurry up with the lube, and don't forget the flash bleach

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/03/2025 13:00

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 12:58

Yep. Auto erotic asphyxiation in his case.

That whole business with Hutchence and Paula Yates ended in such tragedy and suffering. It started off so innocently as simple sexual attraction...but ended up with drug addiction, darkness, and ultimately the death of three people ( I'm including Paula Yates's daughter, Peaches)

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 13:01

Are we onto anal bleaching again? It's barely even lunchtime.

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littlbrowndog · 13/03/2025 13:02

Omg arabella. 🤣🤣🤣