My 14 year old daughter has been sharing school changing rooms, including swimming, with a male. The school never told me, or her. What would you do?

[SernieBanders]

I believe this to be a failure of safeguarding and a risk to every female in the school.

I do not believe the school can give consent in any way, all children are under the age of 16, so they cannot either.

The school in question has adopted the Brighton Trans Inclusion Toolkit which actively encourages males and females to share spaces, including sleeping, without any supervision. They also have unisex toilets.

For the record, I believe all gender questioning children should be given full, dignified support for their schooling. However their needs do not supersede safeguarding and dignity of all female pupils.

What would you do? What legislation, guidance, rules would you quote to them? Straight to governors? The police? What?

Because of religious doctrine around modesty and sexuality at a time where they didn't consider homosexuality to be normal or factor it into issues around the such. Then it because a sin/crime and that meant it was further ignored.

People need privacy. Gender is irrelevant. Cubicles for the win.

Fairly certain it’s ok for those girls to be treated special. It’s their Religion!!!

Two tiers again.

Safeguarding children is not hysteria.
Recognising that there's an epidemic of sexual violence against women and girls is not hysteria.
Accusing parents of "hysteria" because they're concerned that some very concerning people are advocating that mixed sex changing is progressive for children is very outing - and not in a good way.

Sexual predators rarely attack people of genders they aren't attracted to and we are speaking about the chance of sexual assault.

The homophobia on this thread is reminding me of the 90s. Self proclaimed as progressive and then uses.... Oh yes.... Shame and gaslighting on a woman's forum! Absolute jokes. Not got any more modern methods of advancing men's rights?

If your desperation to provide naked girls / women for males with a trans id to change amongst leads to you suggesting that women aren't safe sharing with lesbians, at least be fucking honest and drop the L when you hide your misogyny and homophobia behind "supporting" the acronym.

But really, you do no favours for the T either by suggesting they have to commit sexual offences of voyeurism and exposure for their mental health.

You didn't answer the question. If someone said that they don't want their daughter changing around a lesbian because they find it risky and/or undignified, should that be considered, too?

Or what about their son changing around a gay male?

It just makes no sense to not extend those same views to homosexual teens given the statistics.

They replaced one set of male and one set of female toilets at dds school with unisex toilets. Thankfully leaving one single sex each too. End result has surprised no one with any sense. Female single sex is rammed. The boys have plenty of space though now with a single sex toilets plus the unisex to themselves. It is such a surprise to me that my dds don't want to sit on piss riddled seats. @heyhopotato - would you mind explaining to me please how this set up is progressive for my daughters?

Please cite your evidence for this unusual claim. Those of us who are adults know that rape and sexual assault are about power, anger and control - as well as sexual violence

Because of religious doctrine around modesty and sexuality at a time where they didn't consider homosexuality to be normal or factor it into issues around the such. Then it because a sin/crime and that meant it was further ignored.

No, because women's and children's rights didn't exist. One of the first things that was addressed was toilets for women separate to men. Prisons for women.

Cubicles are no better; rates of voyerism are high in gyms and pools with mixed cubicles.

Why have changing rooms at all? just let them all get changed in the hallway. Let them all see each other,adults as well.

Right? No problem, all genders

Can you provide a link to a study that states this please?

Just have cubicles. Even gendered rooms with private cubicles.

As a lesbian, and a parent, I'm fully versed in what homophobia is. The increase in homophobia that I see stems from the massive increase in adult heterosexual transactivists attempting to persuade young lesbians and gay men that they're really born in the wrong body. Along with insisting that that they have no rights to privacy from the opposite sex - for reasons that are immediately apparent once you engage some critical thinking.

Whataboutery about lesbians is a typical transactivist trope designed to swerve attention away from the adults insisting that girls are support humans required to undress in order to validate unhappy males (see the current NHS Fife debacle trending on here and elsewhere).

shocking; Where is the world heading? I will consider moving her. Put the name of the school/shame them

Article about dangers of unisex changing rooms

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html

Anyway, this homophobic discussion is irrelevant as single sex spaces for children in school is law and the OPs daughter has a right to that provision, without being made to feel that she is being unreasonable or problematic.

The school has prioritised the rights of a teen boy over the rights of the girls.

I would be asking them if they had risk assessed and are ready to deal with the inevitable court action if that male ever carried out any sexually inappropriate or abusive actions on any of the girls in those spaces.

Oh ffs. Just make a boys changing room, girls changing room and a trans changing room. This is ridiculous now, just because some kid identifies as a cat,.everyone else's safety is jeopardised.

So you can't answer whether someone also has the right to not want to change in front of someone who is sexually attracted to people of their gender unless that person is male.

Okay I just wanted to see what level of consistency we are working with and I see this isn't based on anything other than hating men. It isn't based on dignity or human rights at all. Gotcha.

Just have cubicles. Even gendered rooms with private cubicles.

Surely every female in the world has sought solace with their girlfriends in a female only loo? We are taking away so much that used to be available to girls in this pandering to such a tiny part of the population. People really need to stop applying the word 'progress' to what is currently happening - it is anything but.

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Can you provide a link to a study that states this please?

No need to; the pool where we take the pupils with send to swim at have often had males who appear to time their swim to our sessions and hang around the changing areas. Staff have to patrol and have called police before. A colleague was subjected to voyerism under the cubicle door in the same pool. He was charged

But there's absolutely buckets of data

A couple of years ago, staying in a hotel, I got chatting to the lovely lesbian couple at the next table. We agreed to meet at the pool next day. Turned out the women's changing was communal. Which was not a problem because we were all women. Why on earth would them being lesbians matter?

Bingo - hating men!

Tells us all we need to know about the credibility of your demands that girls undress in front of boys.