I think males should be banned from female sport and anyone should be allowed to enter the male / open category. The US President has just signed an executive order saying this.

[SernieBanders]

Females need their own sports for reasons of fairness, competitiveness and safety. I am glad that orders like this make it easier to talk about these issues without being called a biggot.

Everyone deserves fair opportunities, women and girls are under represented in sport, this can only help that get a little better.

Transgender sports people also clearly deserve opportunities to participate in sport and so trans women and men should be allowed to enter male / open categories or have their own categories if needed.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-transgender-athletes-3606411fc12efffec95a893351624e1b

Completely agree with President Trump on this.

Not really, it's all been said a million times before.

300 people say otherwise. Stand up and be counted.

And what? You agree? Or you don't?

Past caring, enjoy persecuting trans people.

But what about all the women losing out on their opportunities here? You don't care about them?

And was is 'persecuting' about telling people they can compete in their own sex class - like everybody else?

They never seem to care about transmen either. I wonder what the common factor might be?

Populists have simple answers for complex problems. They are not often able to deliver on their promises though. And it's 'bigot'.

We all know the answer to that 🫠

Ah but you forgot that trans people must get extra rights and privileges. Being treated equally and the same as everyone else just won't do.

Just what is so very complicated about biological men competing against biological men - and leaving women's categories alone?

Because the judges who overturned Roe v. Wade are still sitting in the Supreme Court. That's why Trump appointed them.

Enjoy indulging fantasists!!

... At the expense of women

Humans cant change sex - surely you know that?

They might be changing the legal gender on their paperwork.

They might be taking hormones or even having surgery to change their bodies in certain ways.

But neither of these are the same as changing sex. You cant change from being a human who is of the sex that produces one type of gametes to being a human from the sex that produces the other type of garments. That’s impossible.

Yep. It's like a sci fi movie!!

Hang on! SernieBanders, did this thread get moved to the naughty step?

No one has persecuted anyone

mens wants don’t trump women’s rights

Apparently

What a shame

mumsnet don’t think women can handle polite robust debate about their rights.

how very cowardly.

if anyone knows any mods.

Lia Thomas (a man who identified as a woman) moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle. He also moved from 554th on the men's team to 5th on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle.

Astonishing that he did so much better in the women's competition. Could it be that he had an unfair advantage?

They have broad shoulders, they can take it.

Really?

My childhood best friend and I are both equally shit at rugby. Should we play against each other? Or even on the same team?

He's over a foot taller than me and weighs quite a lot more. But abilty wise we are probably a match.

You are surprised that on mumsnet people can tell the difference between men and women?

Ask your mum, I bet she knows too.

I haven’t seen this link on Mumsnet for a while. This was a vital part of my introduction to the subject, care of Mumsnet, of course!

https://boysvswomen.com/#/

Don't forget school sports. Denying the right of an adult man to play against toddlers is transphobic.

I understand that men are starting to identify as disabled too for the Paralympics.