Deadly border shootout linked to 6 deaths and a cabal of intellects into AI and transgenderism

[UtopiaPlanitia]

I’ve come across this story in the last few days and it is both very strange and very worrying what this group of young people believe and were prepared to do in defence of their beliefs.

I thought I’d post it here because it has some similarities to recent killings in the US by young men (and women) who were feeling alienated from society and were being negatively affected by genderism.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/vermont-border-patrol-agent-shooting* *

'I do think their ideology is definitely not pacifist... they're willing to do violence. There were times when they believed violence was justified when normal people would not'

I now think from comparing images that hairyface is Michelle Zaiko - higher arched eyebrow and wider open eye on the side of the face in the right of the pictures. But could still also be Teresa pink hair. How many of them have now been captured?

Honestly I’m pretty sure they’re 3 different people.

Maximilian Snyder - 22, standing trial for the murder of Curtis Lind. ‘All genders’. Fiancé of
Teresa/Milo Youngblut, 21, arrested for murder of a US Border Guard, who she/he/whatever killed with a firearm obtained for the group by
Michelle/Jamie Zajko, 32, who’s been charged with murdering (pronouns tbc) parents.

The photo of the pink-haired individual could be any of them, heavily filtered, tbh.

The worst thing about this whole shitshow that I’ve read so far is that they crowdfunded to kill Curtis. An 82 year old man! Sociopaths, the lot of them.

Did the BBC article always say that Lasota was a transgender woman ?

Yes, and then launched into she/her pronouns.

What the hell?! Where did you see that?

There was also a faked death b Ziz which was weird.

There was also a faked death b Ziz which was weird.

Yes I think he pretended to have gone down with the boat that sank in the harbour. Apparently even his family thought he was dead.

The link I posted yesterday is a good summary, she tries but keeps forgetting to use she/her pronouns.

Andy Ngo shared this. So the American police are clear about the sex of Lasota (male).

https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGkFcdCQW8AA6q2r.jpg

I read about this initially a few weeks ago, was confused as hell then and still am confused to be honest. I’m sure there will be an excellent Netflix documentary about this at some point which I look forward to. It’s quite scary how like minded individuals can find each other, influence each other, egg each other on and things escalate. 20 years ago they’d just have been the village oddball ambling about and possibly grown out of it.

I agree. The internet has a huge downside in that it allows groups of anti-social and troubled people to find each other and reinforce their hatred of mainstream society. They all wind each other up into a furious hatred and it’s obvious that some of them will go on to take deadly action against the people they’ve been encouraged to see as their enemies or as being worth less than their ‘poor tortured soul’.

I agree. The internet has a huge downside in that it allows groups of anti-social and troubled people to find each other and reinforce their hatred of mainstream society. They all wind each other up into a furious hatred and it’s obvious that some of them will go on to take deadly action against the people they’ve been encouraged to see as their enemies or as being worth less than their ‘poor tortured soul’.

This.

Article discussing the BBC coverage of this group:

https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/how-the-media-picks-the-pronouns

Article from the NYT detailing the current state of legal proceedings against the Zizians:

https://archive.ph/NEnhf

All the 'shes' and 'hers' make this article almost unreadable. Look at the following extract:

"Ziz, who grew up in Alaska as the oldest of three siblings, was home-schooled for some of her childhood. As a preteen boy, Ziz grew depressed. She saw puberty as “evil,” she later wrote on her blog, Sinceriously, and was horrified at the idea that she would be “killed-overwritten” by a new self.
She began to feel “like the world was a hypothetical,” she wrote. A key epiphany was realizing that even if she couldn’t fix her own problems, she could make things better for others. “One of the happiest thoughts I’ve ever had,” she wrote."

Sex based pronouns are so much clearer (especially when you see the photo of Ziz).

"Ziz, who grew up in Alaska as the oldest of three siblings, was home-schooled for some of his childhood. As a preteen boy, Ziz grew depressed. He saw puberty as “evil,” he later wrote on his blog, Sinceriously, and was horrified at the idea that he would be “killed-overwritten” by a new self.
He began to feel “like the world was a hypothetical,” he wrote. A key epiphany was realizing that even if he couldn’t fix his own problems, he could make things better for others. “One of the happiest thoughts I’ve ever had,” he wrote."

It is a baffling editorial choice that obscures an aspect of the insanity in this story.

I gave up halfway through. Was there anything new or specifically relevant? I’m at work and can’t justify the attention 😁

There was a little bit of news at the beginning of the article where it covered Jack/Ziz’s request to be released from jail on bail because he was ‘starving to death’ over lack of vegan food. But given that he’s a flight risk who has jumped bail before and has tried to fake his own death, coupled with the fact that the jail states they have been giving him vegan food from minute he got there, I think the application will fail.

Is he in a female prison?

My thinking (having only seen headlines) is that this is not gender ideology’s fault at all, that’s the wrong way around. This is just big standard crazy and that’s one of the causes the modern bog standard crazy that leans socially liberal jumps on. The crazy is the problem, no point going on about the symptoms in this case.

There’s no information that I remember reading about which clarifies facility he’s in.

Edited to add: there’s a good chance he’s in a female prison given widespread practice in many US states.

Thanks Utopia. I had forgotten the insanity of the starving’ plea in among the rest.

He’s clearly starving in the same way my dog is starving. Without wishing to throw armchair diagnoses around, I wonder when his behaviour first signalled a problem?

Article in Spiked that contains a little bit of new info towards the bottom of the piece:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/08/16/inside-the-trans-vegan-death-cult/

That’s a good article and much easier to read than the others have been- at least once you began to trust the pronouns!

Remarkably binary outlook too, ironically, with a good and a bad hemisphere!

You're right, it is so much easier to make sense of the world when the pronouns are sex-based and not fantasy-based.

Yup - vegan cult seems rather a misnomer