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Deadly border shootout linked to 6 deaths and a cabal of intellects into AI and transgenderism

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UtopiaPlanitia · 02/02/2025 17:43

I’ve come across this story in the last few days and it is both very strange and very worrying what this group of young people believe and were prepared to do in defence of their beliefs.

I thought I’d post it here because it has some similarities to recent killings in the US by young men (and women) who were feeling alienated from society and were being negatively affected by genderism.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/vermont-border-patrol-agent-shooting* *

'I do think their ideology is definitely not pacifist... they're willing to do violence. There were times when they believed violence was justified when normal people would not'

Deadly border shootout linked to 6 deaths and a cabal of intellects into AI and transgenderism

An bizarre shootout that killed a U.S. Border Patrol agent and a suspect near the Canadian border is turning into a sprawling investigation.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/vermont-border-patrol-agent-shooting

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ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 07:36

Front page BBC. They call Jack a 'transgender woman' and use she/her pronouns, don't mention that other members are also trans.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy83958r2d0o

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 07:38

WarriorN · 21/02/2025 06:47

Zizians: What we know about the vegan 'cult' linked to six deaths www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy83958r2d0o

Made it to the bbc

She her of course

Oh, I missed your post Warrior!

WarriorN · 21/02/2025 07:43

Great minds and all that!

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 21/02/2025 08:06

I’ve just read the bbc article and it is very hard to follow. Teresa who used to be called Milo, which is only mentioned several lines apart. It makes it read like a woman attacked the farmer but it was 2 blokes!

At least with the picture of Jack it is very clear he is a man.

There is a paragraph on their vegan beliefs but not their gender ones. 🤔

WarriorN · 21/02/2025 09:06

Yes I found it very confusing too

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ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 09:21

It's confusing because the BBC are doing their best to not mention the elephant in the room.

ScrambledSmegs · 21/02/2025 09:34

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 21/02/2025 08:06

I’ve just read the bbc article and it is very hard to follow. Teresa who used to be called Milo, which is only mentioned several lines apart. It makes it read like a woman attacked the farmer but it was 2 blokes!

At least with the picture of Jack it is very clear he is a man.

There is a paragraph on their vegan beliefs but not their gender ones. 🤔

Everything I’ve seen points to Teresa/Milo being a biological woman? It’s so confusing.

DeanElderberry · 21/02/2025 09:37

I found the Blocked and Reported thing the most helpful. Young people living in a fantasy world that 'justifies' their actions in the real world. The significance of the veganism, the ubiquity of medication and 'medication'.

https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/episode-247-the-zizians-reign-of-terror/id1504298199?i=1000690805011

SabrinaThwaite · 21/02/2025 10:12

I saw this on the BBC website this morning too - the pronouns made it hard to follow but fortunately The Times article from Monday 17th Feb has some enlightening mugshots.

https://archive.ph/HhWsa

Chersfrozenface · 21/02/2025 11:12

ScrambledSmegs · 21/02/2025 09:34

Everything I’ve seen points to Teresa/Milo being a biological woman? It’s so confusing.

With the obfuscation by US law enforcement agencies, US media and UK media, it is indeed very difficult to work it out.

However, it seems most likely that Teresa "Milo" Youngblut is biologically female and the others are biologically male.

FlowchartRequired · 21/02/2025 11:20

Teresa "Milo" Youngblut and Michelle Jacqueline "Jamie" Zajko are the female members of the cult that we know about currently.

Bayonetlightbulb · 21/02/2025 11:49

Chersfrozenface · 21/02/2025 11:12

With the obfuscation by US law enforcement agencies, US media and UK media, it is indeed very difficult to work it out.

However, it seems most likely that Teresa "Milo" Youngblut is biologically female and the others are biologically male.

Did you see the link to the mugshot posted above? Might change your mind!

FlowchartRequired · 21/02/2025 11:56

Teresa and Michelle.

Deadly border shootout linked to 6 deaths and a cabal of intellects into AI and transgenderism
Deadly border shootout linked to 6 deaths and a cabal of intellects into AI and transgenderism
ScrambledSmegs · 21/02/2025 15:49

I've seen some different images of Michelle/Jamie Zajko that suggest MTF (from a Children's Hospital of Philadelphia event that annoyingly seem to have been deleted now) but I wouldn't stake my life on it. Not particularly flattering photos anyway.

There's no mugshot of Teresa/Milo that I can see, just a CCTV still. Have I missed it?

myplace · 21/02/2025 15:53

Are you sure, @FlowchartRequired ?

This is from the newspaper article. Unless I’m bad at clockwise counting, teresa is the one in the mask.

Deadly border shootout linked to 6 deaths and a cabal of intellects into AI and transgenderism
SabrinaThwaite · 21/02/2025 15:55

Another shot of Michelle Zajko here:

openvallejo.org/2025/02/18/federal-prosecutors-charge-alleged-zizian-over-firearm-purchase/

DeanElderberry · 21/02/2025 16:02

myplace · 21/02/2025 15:53

Are you sure, @FlowchartRequired ?

This is from the newspaper article. Unless I’m bad at clockwise counting, teresa is the one in the mask.

Teresa's the one in the middle with the T-induced whiskers and puffiness. Looks about right features and eyebrows-wise.

myplace · 21/02/2025 16:08

DeanElderberry · 21/02/2025 16:02

Teresa's the one in the middle with the T-induced whiskers and puffiness. Looks about right features and eyebrows-wise.

Doh. 5 names, 6 pictures. I see it now.

ScrambledSmegs · 21/02/2025 16:19

DeanElderberry · 21/02/2025 16:02

Teresa's the one in the middle with the T-induced whiskers and puffiness. Looks about right features and eyebrows-wise.

No that's Maximilian Snyder, Youngblut's fiancé. Identifies as all genders.

I'm getting the hang of this now.

ScrambledSmegs · 21/02/2025 16:21

If you look at the Times article linked upthread, scroll down about halfway and there's a photo of Maximilian in court charged with the murder of Curtis Lind.

DeanElderberry · 21/02/2025 16:22

Count again, and compare hairyface with pinkhair.

They have been very good in their efforts to confuse us all, I admit.

TitusMoan · 21/02/2025 16:22

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2025 09:21

It's confusing because the BBC are doing their best to not mention the elephant in the room.

Still captured aren’t they

Xenia · 21/02/2025 16:30

I watched a youtube video a little while back of the couple who were involved in murdering the police in the shoot out on a road where the German was also killed. The CCTV of them in all black and weird movements as if they were some kind of spies was very strange.

FlowchartRequired · 21/02/2025 16:34

The Farms have done a lot of digging into the members of this cult. The Zizians appear to be mainly MtF. However, from what I read, they think that Teresa and Michelle are FtM. They do look different in more recent photos, but that could be due to cross-sex hormones.

If anyone want to check for updates, the thread is easy to find by going on the Farms (no need to sign up) and searching for the Zizians.

ETA- in the collage of photos up the thread, Teresa is in the mask and doesn't have pink hair anymore.

ETA2- Yes, I think there is an 'all gender' or non-binary member too.

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