I think the spell is finally broken...

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

Let's not forget who has been Obamas backer this while time, namely The Pritzkers.

I don’t think many of us here have any illusions about Trump. He’s anti-feminist and has no respect for women.

But as a conservative, he doesn’t believe the genderism nonsense. Why would he, or any conservative? It’s a luxury belief, held by people who want to appear ‘progressive’ without the effort of doing anything that’s actually progressive.

Trump doesn’t feel any need to please small minorities or special-interest groups that he’s not interested in and that aren’t popular. So he has no reason at all to conciliate the genderists.

That is a huge relief to me and anyone concerned about the loss of women’s long-held rights. It doesn’t mean we support anything else he does.

Would you say the same if he abolished gay marriage, brought in gay military bans, banned IVF, etc etc? They're of a piece with this
How on earth are this things “of a piece” with this?!

So it was better when women couldn't even talk about the issue, when Twitter killed our accounts and Reddit removed our subs, when men were saying words to access women in prison and were raping / assaulting them.

All those things were better, were they?

TDS: 2025 edition is howling at the moon levels of mad.

In what way.... there are no shortage of of christian-style groups who would like to do away with rights for so many minority groups.

Now they've disposed of the trans types who are they going to focus on next (apart from immigrants).

I agree it's depressing it's Trump who's so clearly restoring women's rights to our own sport, to be free from men flashing in places where women and girls undress and who's the leader determined to stop the dangerous experimental sex change drugs and surgery being used on children and young people.

I'd have liked to have heard Starmer stand up for the rights of girls and women not to encounter indecent exposure or voyeurism in women's changing rooms. I'd have been thrilled to hear the new labour minister for education join up the safeguarding dots and insist that schools MUST respect the Cass Review's concerns about unqualified adults experimenting on other people's children by socially transitioning them in secret from parents.

Sadly to date they've been silent (except for Wes Streeting who has evidently read Cass in detail) leaving just the echo of Starmer's "don't say only women have a cervix" echoing in the space where responsible adults should be safeguarding children from extreme transactivism.

Maybe one day labour will start to safeguard children rather than dance to demands of transacvtivism? We're waiting.

Playing a political game, doing some profitable deals, staying out of jail, playing a lot of golf.

He obviously has advisors who are telling him what people care about, and this was one - Nancy Mace's popularity won't have gone un-noticed. I'll be surprised if the cost of living doesn't drop sharply soon. I'll also be interested to see what the perception of him as a strong leader does on the wider world stage The perception of Biden as weak was not good for women worldwide.

GC ideology is now so right wing that you support pussy grabbing Trump and nazi saluting Musk. Shame.

😂Way to tell us you haven't read the thread 😂

I think the fact that Nazis were able to no just cross dress, but to take photos of themselves doing it means that they weren't concerned with Hitler's reaction. You can't say that cross dressing is not the same as being trans as trans is simply a feeling in your head and can be totally unrelated to how you choose to present to the world. A transwoman with a full beard wearing mens clothes is no less trans than one who goes out of his way to look as feminine as possible.

Conservatives in the US are extremely concerned about the effects gender ideology has had on kids. Why wouldn't they be?

As far as this idea that they want to return women to "conservative gender roles." You mean like Trump's Chief of Staff, or Vance's wife? Or women like Condoleeza Rice, or even Megan Kelley, or all the other conservative women in business and politics, are all trying to get women just back to traditional gender roles?

What exactly do you think counts as a conservative gender role? Because it seems to be voting, having opinions, writing, having jobs in all kinds of sectors, and being leaders in politics.

^^this!!

And who else are you expecting to change much?

Which politicians?

"I don't like Trump, I don't like Trump". OK, we get it, but again what has this got to do with this particular policy?

I will phrase this another way.

"If this was a Biden policy, would you have any issue with it?"

It's convinced many people that they are idiots, for sure.

And a fair number now think they are not in good faith, that they have some kind of nefarious agenda.

If Trump suddenly came out in support of climate change mitigation policies, climate scientists would not be saying "this is bad for the planet".

Trump is obviously odious and not to be relied on to protect, support and champion women's rights, but this, specifically, is a very important win.

No I wouldn’t wish women would just shut up but I wouldn’t be too quick to congratulate this legislation, like some people are on here. Donald couldn’t give a toss about women’s rights.

Do you think May Mailman is going to allow that to happen?

I just caught the last couple of minutes of a GBN programme with RMW being interviewed. Described as a Discrimination Lawyer, I believe. Did anyone catch it that could clarify? I think the gist was that Trump wouldn't be able to get this through?

We know that, but he's given women who do care about women's rights what they've been asking for for several years. So we'll take that with a thank-you and play him: we'll use him for what we can get out of him and we'll lead the opposition when he doesn't. You don't get anywhere by not being involved. You shake hands with people you'd really rather not touch and then you take them for everything useful you can get out of them.

It's basically any woman trying to pull the ladder up behind them so no others can follow. Like Amy Coney Barret. She'll never need an abortion, as she will always have enough money and power to travel elsewhere to get one if her life is in danger due to a pregnancy. This means she pushed other women, who do not have these resources, under the bus.

Anti-abortion women, and those who believe women should be in the home, have no problems being hypocrites about it. They'll campaign, they'll work, while shouting from the rooftops that they believe women, in general, shouldn't have that right. They are just "special" so they should be exempt.

I am smooth brained and I have not been following politics or anything for a while because life is tough, but here is my take.
It doesn't matter who is saying it, just that it is being said and that gives people a chance to speak about women and children and their rights. It's mental that for so long we haven't been able to state the truth that there are only 2 sexes, but now maybe just maybe more people will be inclined to speak the truth.

This is a very poor argument.

As indeed are all arguments that basically go something like 'don't look at the evidence in front of you, at someone's actions, believe what I'm telling you about their well hidden secret inner motivations'.

We've all had enough of that - we'll make up our own minds.

Does this particular barrister has much of a track record of accuracy or success in this field? They have a personal investment in all this which appears to cloud their judgement to the extent that they crashed into a thread on here where where a rape survivor was discussing her upcoming court case. The fact they are apparently acting for the organisation that's removed this women's rights didn't stop them posting.
Unbelievably crass.

He's not doing this because he respects women or that he believes in feminism. He's doing it because he hates trans people.

Probably thinks they want to touch him or something ridiculous.