I think the spell is finally broken...

[Daysnconfuddled]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

To all the gender conservatives on this thread: if you think that speaking truth about the physiological differences between human females and males - truth, not stupid nonsense like ‘women can only make babies and bake’ - will inevitably result in women’s subjugation, then the problem is with your lack of political imagination and potentially also self-confidence …

It's perfectly possible to recognize Trump as a dangerous loose cannon AND know that the Democrats are reaping what they sowed in the way of insane policies pretending that men are women.

That might be so, but if it means women get their spaces and protections back, then we'll take it.

I can't write what I think about Trump or I'd be banned, but that doesn't mean I cant see the value in this.

Same as pretty much every other politician everywhere since ever.

‘He's doing it because it's something that his base cares about’

Isn't that the definition of democracy ?

Pretty much.

No, if anything, this reinforces and entrenches the believe that gender is a real and tangible thing that can be changed and is even "reversible".

If the loudest voices on this issue do not come from a cause of concern for the well-being of children, as well as an understanding that this is pushed by fetishists, we will lose this fight.

Conservatives (for a lack of a better word) do not operate in the interest of the well-being of children or the safety of women of girls for whom it has now become even harder to get away from predators.

These conservatives want "men to be men" and "women to be women" and what they mean by that is to confine women to the home in service of men. Trump stacked the US Supreme Court with conservative judges, who only qualified if they were anti-choice. While Trump did not directly ban abortion, he did everything else to make sure that women in the US lost their access to abortions.

Anti-choicers do not give a shit about life, children or women. The is evidenced by the fact that while a fetus is apparently of infinite value; women dying in children birth, children dying from poverty and the death-penalty; are perfectly acceptable to these people.

Let's not lose sight of their motives, people! This is not a win. It is a set-back.

The link is Trump's support base. They aren't going to let him stop at just rolling back genderism, they want to roll back feminism and LGB rights. They see all three as equally unnatural.

Great point from PP about being able to stop fighting a rearguard action on who counts as a woman, and being able to concentrate on actually advancing again.

I'm looking forward to contributing (from across the pond) to the fight to reinstate reproductive rights and enshrine them properly in law, without having to worry about Lia Fucking Thomas and rapists being locked in with women.

This discussion with Megyn Kelly is interesting.

Donald Trump Gets to Work with Day One Executive Orders on Immigration, Gender, Energy, More – Megyn Kelly

Lots of discussion about the return to common sense on sex and gender and how insane it is this is a big deal.

They also talked about polling and despite some biased and confusing questions the vast majority of respondents including just democratic voters are against men in women's sports (79% overall against, 69% of dems), men in women's private spaces etc (Ipsos poll).

This stops the rape of women in prisons, this stops children being butchered and indoctrinated, this protects women’s sports and safe spaces etc.
It doesn’t matter this law was introduced by Trump or Lucifer, this measure is putting an end to serious harm to women’s existence, that’s what matters.
Doesn’t mean either all wars against women’s rights have been won or that Trump is a women’s ally, but this is and will stay a good law, so I rejoice.

Sorry it melts the identity politics brains who can only see pure heroes and true evil, idolise or cancel, but it’s not like that in real life.

The claim that a restricting of men in women's sports, children being operated on etc in the name of gender ideology is somehow a set-back for women is coming from the same people who demand that women can have penises.

If someone restricts trans ideology is right-wing they're not doing being they believe it the right thing to do there is malicious intent behind it, only left-wing people are virtuous.

Trump has a number of daughters, Musk lost a son to gender ideology. It is just possible (even though people don't want to admit it) that these people do actually believe in what they are doing.

Yes, this is what it's really about. Mr trump knows that rolling back genderism will score him a lot of points with a lot of people, it will earn them his trust and make it easier for him to get to his ultimate goal.

Yes exactly. There is another way:
deadwildroses.com/2019/10/07/handy-venn-diagrams-the-radical-feminist-position-on-gender/

The problem with American politics (and the enormous influence of American culture in the UK) is that they only offer two options. Both options centre around a belief in innate gender stereotypes:

Either you ensure your personality fits the stereotypes associated with your sex (ranging from relatively mild traditional sexism; through Trump; religious nutjobs prohibiting abortion and homosexuality; to extremists keeping women enslaved indoors and silent)

Or

You declare that your sex changes to match your personality (ranging from gay men / lesbian girls attempting to escape deep rooted homophobia; through fetishist males seizing the opportunity to gain cultural capital and oppression points in an era where "straight white males" are supposed to be checking their privilege; to outright abusers claiming a special identity to access vulnerable women or children / avoid male jail).

Both these positions serve the patriarchy. If the first group would see it's women kept at home for use by their husbands, the second would demand the use of women's bodies for validation in sharing spaces, sex work and surrogacy.

If you had a kid in America who was autistic or gay or even simply non conforming, I can understand why in the very immediate term Trump might feel the safer option. In the vanishingly short years of adolescence, a child's future health can be destroyed if they're unlucky enough to be influenced by adults with a fervent belief in gender ideology.

Obviously Trump doesn't give a shit about women. He changed his position on trans rights to "reality" when he saw which way the wind was blowing.

Well, wouldn't it have been a spiffing idea for the Democrats to have cottoned on that sex realism wins votes and gains trust, and that genderism loses them?

Then they could be getting to their ultimate goals.

No, I’m allowed to have different opinions from other people - I can even agree with them on some things and disagree on others. You should try it, it’s liberating (and actually essential to the democratic process)

I am extremely concerned about the overall impact of the Trump presidency. That doesn’t mean he’s wrong on everything, and in this instance, he’s spot on!

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The biggest threat to women's lives is men. Not trans people.

And transwomen are...

Male people. Whether trans or not. It's the maleness that's the issue here.

Transwomen are male. They commit sex crimes at the same rate (if not more) as other males.
They are not a sacred cast who bypass safeguarding.

I wonder what impact (I won't say 'if any', it'll be one way or the other) this will have on the UK?

Yes it looks like the end for gender ideology

Perhaps only in the US but I wouldn't be surprised if we see it spread