I think the spell is finally broken...

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

IMO the requirement to live in your assumed sex for 2 years minimum and undergo medical transition was a sensible bar for legal entry to your assumed sex. My issue was always with self ID and the obvious fact that abusive men were using self ID to access women’s spaces and compromise our safety. There should always be cavets that prioritise women’s safety, such as in sports. I accept none of this is settled, but that people on a feminist forum are celebrating the actions of a known abuser of women, who has immediately actioned an obviously regressive policy that clearly threatens vulnerable people is frankly disgusting, the idea that this is being done under the guise of ‘feminism’ is sickening.

Of course validation comes into it.

India Willoughby has tweeted about refusing to use gender neutral toilets in Manchester Airport and going off in search of the women's toilets, the tweet being supported by other trans women who said they did the same.

There's a lot of voters who believe that abortion should be for the individual states to decide whilst also being pro-choice enough to vote for abortion rights when their state puts it on the ballot.

My first thought was that most of these voters must be male because I would expect pro-choice women to want to keep abortion by any means available. Then I considered the teen girls and young women missing out on athletics scholarships to universities and colleges because of cheating men and boys and realised that some women would risk Roe-era abortion rights to protect their daughters' chance for social mobility, hoping that they could protect abortion at state level.

And with the overturning of Roe now being already done and dusted, there's no reason whatsoever for any woman concerned about her own and her daughters' rights to vote for a Democrat president.

By medical transition do you mean genital surgery or would hormones alone suffice?

What are trans people who live as women or men supposed to actually do now

Mem can't live as women and women can't live as men. Seriously it is this utter abject nonsense that got just here in the first place.

Oh my God! How do we know they've undergone surgical transition?

Are you recommending genital inspections??

A stopped clock is right twice per day.

I despise the man and at the same time I agree with this one action of his.

Surely they are also victims of this gender ideology, and woeful mental health support surrounding this. So I have ethical concerns about those who ‘transitioned’ many years ago, and are now living peaceful lives not harming anyone, being forced to de-transition somehow. Does this mean getting any surgery reversed? I think suicide rates would massively increase, and I’m sure mental health provision would be as pitiful as ever.

Males go in the men’s.

HTH

How do you already know whether someone is male or female? My sister who is a lesbian often gets mistaken for a man. This is a stupid line of argument, the facts are a group of extremely vulnerable people have been made more so by a regime that is very obviously going to deliver nothing positive for women and a forum of supposed feminists is crowing. Gross.

I agree.

He's doing it because it's something that his base cares about

Are you suggesting that politicians ought to break their promises to the people who voted for them?

Obama broke his promise to protect abortion rights on his first day in office, he was reminded about it for a year and still did nothing, and look how well that ended for American women in anti-abortion states.

I suppose it's predictable that when people are told to use the facilities of their own sex, they come up with rot like this.

I'm looking forward to all the new campaigns though, for a third space.

All your problems will be solved!

'actually transitioned people'

It's not possible to change sex.

You haven’t actually read it, have you?

The problem with third spaces is that they are mixed sex. The problem with mixed sex spaces is they are more dangerous.

I'll take that as a no to general inspections?

So even though you said we should limit the gatekeeping to women's spaces, you admit there absolutely fuck all way to do it.

There never has been.

Women's spaces being for women only is not 'cruelty'.

Yes, male violence is an absolute scourge.

I have read it, it’s about gender ideology. Not sex based rights. Its seems some women on here think women’s rights is about the use of a toilet. But they are celebrating a rapist in the White House. Feminism has failed.

So do you want four spaces?

Well the difference is, now, people get to try!

And if a person is in the wrong place, they will get kicked out by security.

I don't see what male on male violence has to do with women.

So you wanted law to protect women, but now that one pops up, you're disgusted and sickened by it?

How did you expect to keep men out of women's spaces?