Trump announces executive order that says legally there are only 2 genders (hmmm did he mis-speak and meant sex?)

[IwantToRetire]

Well this will add to the confusion.

Have just heard him use the word gender, even though earlier news reports had said he would say only 2 sexes.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-sign-order-proclaiming-only-160700963.html

Now you've really admitted that you don't know anything about Mumsnet.

@leftorrightnow
Dismissing a concern because it occurs less than other causes for concern is a logical fallacy. It is called relative privation.
Here's a handy link for you to learn about it, and why it's a logical fallacy.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as

Why are you so focused on this issue to the exclusion of much more widespread issues for women such a violence against women, lack of equal pay, lack of funded childcare, lack
of women in power and politics etc etc?

He's written it into law. Not personally, as he can't string a coherent sentence together. But there is someone on his team who has a full grasp of this and is fully across all the implications.

Okay here is what I think.

we need to recognise trans people and protect their rights. We don’t need all of society to change to accommodate this. We don’t need mixed sex toilets (which I’m against) or trans persons competing in women’s sports (they should have their own category and compete in that). we need to keep the category of women.

parts of the left went too far in trans rights and it’s damaged them politically.

but we need to now look at the reality of a US president who’s firmly anti women’s rights and surrounded by people far more misogynistic than himself. And focus on that.

Who said I am focused on this to the “exclusion” of anything? I am capable of considering it all. You said:

Please enlighten me as to the extensive damage to women’s rights caused by trans-rights?

You didn’t ask relative to other issues. Thousands of women and girls have been negatively affected by trans rights. I think this is “extensive”. Do you not?

Yes, I do.

You haven't read the Executive Order, clearly. Or followed the lawsuits about these issues.

Also, recognising the reality of sex is fundamental to Title IX and Title VII.

Do you support the women's rights I have listed above?

parts of the left went too far in trans rights and it’s damaged them politically.

but we need to now look at the reality of a US president who’s firmly anti women’s rights and surrounded by people far more misogynistic than himself. And focus on that.

Well yes, hopefully the Democrats will learn from the mistake you admit they made and regroup. I'm sure many people hope that will happen.

He's written it into law. Not personally, as he can't string a coherent sentence together. But there is someone on his team who has a full grasp of this and is fully across all the implications.

Vance seems to be fully across it, if you listen to his Joe Rogan podcast interview.

If that's what you think, why are you opposed to the Executive Order on the reality of sex?

I’ve seen it. Pay close attention to what the EO says:

“Efforts to eradicate the biological reality of sex fundamentally attack women by depriving them of their dignity, safety, and well-being”

gender equality is not mentioned once. Not once. What does dignity and well being mean? It’s so euphemistic. It can mean anything.

what he wants is to restore women as the weaker sex who needs protection - note the dignity, safety and well being - by big strong men like him and Elon.

next step is go back home, watch the kids and cook and
clean while daddy runs the country.

I’ll protect you from all the dangerous trans people and other men who don’t have the right to control you the way your husbands and fathers do.

citizens of other countries aren’t free to ignore Trump. Yes we have very limited influence ok US
As a peasant in another country I think I can safely say I can. I cannot influence him, I cannot change anything, so I suggest you start emailing and tweeting the American population especially those in position of power. Are you going to do that? Of course not 🙄

peasant have more power than they think if they band together and don’t get divided by populist divide and rule tactics.

womens rights were won by clear eyed women who joined forces. Please see this focus on trans rights for what it is - a diversion for women fighting for our real rights of equality with men.

worm’s rights
a Freudian slip ?

Yes that’s right you got me! I’m a woman hating women - or perhaps a man pretending to be a woman? Or maybe just typing on a phone. Up to you.

Please see this focus on trans rights for what it is - a diversion for women fighting for our real rights of equality with men.

You're flip flopping all over the place. As you said earlier

"parts of the left went too far in trans rights and it’s damaged them politically."

I'm confused - I went to a gender reveal party a few weeks back where they announced they were having a girl

I always associated gender with sex, when I was pregnant I was asked if i wanted to know the gender

The whole worlds gone mad FFS

No Im not. It’s a small
part of the left who focus on this issue. The right took a magnifying glass to this trend and the left wasn’t fast enough at regrouping and putting this issue on the back burner.
it was never the main issue for the democrats or for Labour in this country.

gender equality is not mentioned once. Not once.

Do you think that might be because that's not what the EO is about?

Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government

It's not about 'gender equality'.

@leftorrightnow

If they hadn't done and said some mad shit, no one would be able to reproach them for it, would they?

If it's not a main issue for them, why do they keep insisting it's so important?

You think it’s not about gender equality? Of course it is. Don’t you think that defining what the category of woman, the word woman means, is essentially about trying to take control of gender roles and gender issues widely?

“this unhealthy road is paved by an ongoing and purposeful attack against the ordinary and longstanding use and understanding of biological and scientific terms, replacing the immutable biological reality of sex with an internal, fluid, and subjective sense of self unmoored from biological facts. Invalidating the true and biological category of “woman” improperly transforms laws and policies designed to protect sex-based opportunities into laws and policies that undermine them, replacing longstanding, cherished legal rights and values with an identity-based, inchoate social concept.”

because whose supremacy is threatened by fluid gender categories? Men’s or women’s? This is about resting male supremacy make no mistake

It’s a small part of the left who focus on this issue

If that’s the case why did Biden sign an executive order on his first day to remove the protections for women and girls in Title IX? Is an executive order from the president “a small part of the left”?

Are the ACLU and Planned Parenthood and other massive organisations campaigning against women’s rights “a small part of the left”?

They don’t. They didn’t make it front and center of their campaign. They just didn’t want to give up when pushed on it, and Trump pushed and pushed on it as he saw the opportunity to attract voters.

You said that’s are campaigns against women’s rights. I disagree.